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Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

If you live in Japan or Korea it's normal to sleep on the floor. In Japan you have a room covered in tatami mats. At night you pull out the futon from the closet and sleep on it. You then put it back in the closet in the morning.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%E5%B8%83%E5%9B%A3&udm=2

Often you pull out a small table (kotatsu) and put it in the center of the room in the day.

https://www.google.com/search?q=%E3%81%93%E3%81%9F%E3%81%A4&...

Korea is the same except tatami mats are less common.

Of course now-a-days, lots of Japanese and Koreans sleep on beds but futon are not uncommon.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

By bizarre coincidence, I actually lost a sexual partner right when I bought my current bed frame.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

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Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

The other side of that coin is that if she can't tolerate mattress on floor to access tech money then maybe the other guy dodged a bullet too depending on what he's after. I found myself turning down the class intentionally a lot because my current income/wealth level exceeds the norm for my background at my age and I don't want to live with someone who doesn't share my social/cultural norms. It reminds me of a passa…

Re-read this post and seriously evaluate what's actually being described. Dodged a bullet from what? A low quality gold digger? Normal well adjusted people have standards and unless you're going to make some absent minded appeal to norms in other cultures one of those standards is an actual bed complete with a frame. It's a low bar to reach for.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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The other side of that coin is that if she can't tolerate mattress on floor to access tech money then maybe the other guy dodged a bullet too depending on what he's after. I found myself turning down the class intentionally a lot because my current income/wealth level exceeds the norm for my background at my age and I don't want to live with someone who doesn't share my social/cultural norms. It reminds me of a passa…

Re-read this post and seriously evaluate what's actually being described. Dodged a bullet from what? A low quality gold digger? Normal well adjusted people have standards and unless you're going to make some absent minded appeal to norms in other cultures one of those standards is an actual bed complete with a frame. It's a low bar to reach for.

It is simply a matter of utility. Bed frames do not provide much utility, and cost money, which seperates me from my early retirement.

Tech bros are probably making this utilitarian decision more consciously than the woman was considering her own mate evaluation feature detectors.

A more intelligent, less shallow woman would have connected the dots. Had the male been percieved as sufficiently physically attractive she would have ignored the lack of bed anyways, and addressed the lack of aesthetics with communication like an adult human being.

I say this as a tech bro who wore ten year old clothes with holes the first time I met the girl who became my wife. The situation was resolved simply. I threw away the old ones, and I gave her a budget of $200. She took me shopping for outfits. It was fun.

You may want to reconsider your position on the matter. If someone rejects another human being due to not having a bed frame when they live alone that is sufficiently shallow that it indicates some inner growth is in order.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re-read this post and seriously evaluate what's actually being described. Dodged a bullet from what? A low quality gold digger? Normal well adjusted people have standards and unless you're going to make some absent minded appeal to norms in other cultures one of those standards is an actual bed complete with a frame. It's a low bar to reach for.

It is simply a matter of utility. Bed frames do not provide much utility, and cost money, which seperates me from my early retirement. Tech bros are probably making this utilitarian decision more consciously than the woman was considering her own mate evaluation feature detectors. A more intelligent, less shallow woman would have connected the dots. Had the male been percieved as sufficiently physically attractive sh…

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Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

By bizarre coincidence, I actually lost a sexual partner right when I bought my current bed frame.

Did you accidentally throw them out with the old frame?

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

I just had a mattress on the floor at one point in my life. I found the mattress in an alley, before that I was sleeping on the floor, no mattress. I dragged the mattress from the alley into my apartment. It was a major improvement in my sleep situation.

Didn't really seem to have an effect one way or the other on my love life. I was doing OK.

That was back when I was a poor. I learned to code, I made money. I have a bed frame now. It's awesome. Let's fuck.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Re-read this post and seriously evaluate what's actually being described. Dodged a bullet from what? A low quality gold digger? Normal well adjusted people have standards and unless you're going to make some absent minded appeal to norms in other cultures one of those standards is an actual bed complete with a frame. It's a low bar to reach for.

It is simply a matter of utility. Bed frames do not provide much utility, and cost money, which seperates me from my early retirement. Tech bros are probably making this utilitarian decision more consciously than the woman was considering her own mate evaluation feature detectors. A more intelligent, less shallow woman would have connected the dots. Had the male been percieved as sufficiently physically attractive sh…

You are in a lot of pain. I'm sorry to hear that.

Re: Keynes on the influence of furniture on love

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I once met somebody on the train who lives in the Bay Area and told me that her dating experiences in the area with tech guys included more than one "guy who just has a mattress on the floor". If there's any takeaway from the 15 seconds you spent looking at this article and the comments, you should buy a bed frame. Any bedframe. Just take the mattress off the floor. If you're on this site, you can afford one. Extra c…

Am I the only one who opted for the mattress-on-floor (MoF) strategy because I was too poor to get a good bedframe and the cheap bedframe squeaks heavily impacted my sleep and the sleep of those around me?
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