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Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by untog »

lukejduncan wrote: post #77

The anecodte the poster gives is spot on and huge. There have been many times I've thought "I wonder why I don't hear from this person anymore" and it was simply a matter of Facebook no longer prioritizing their posts in my news feed. Just because someones post isn't "liked" or clicked on in some way doesn't mean it's not valuable. It's a passive form of communication. I don't know if this is just my perception, and…

But Facebook offers comprehensive controls that let you decide who appears on your news feed and who does not. You just need to use them.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

Has some good points, but I think many get the wrong idea about facebook. It's a way to keep in touch with far off friends who you wouldn't hear from at all otherwise. It's never affected a real relationship for me in the slightest, other than, "I saw your pics." The news feed could be better, but it has become more relevant since I've silenced a few overposters and blocked apps, etc.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by obituary_latte »

planetguy wrote: post #44
obituary_latte wrote: post #12

My problem with fb and the reason I don't use it is simple: principal. I understand the model, and oblige with google (though not g+ as it is pretty quiet in my neck of the woods). But to not only give them the value of my data but also have them go around changing things like registered email without so much as a heads up is a slap in the face. It's like a conceited bus monitor that just goes ahead and "does what's…

It took me a long time to figure out that you meant "principle" rather than "principal". For school teachers, perhaps the reason might be principal.

Heh. Meaty fingers and no coffee make HN cell phone posts a rough time.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by johnchristopher »

nicholassmith wrote: post #34
johnchristopher wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't the fact we add too many contacts the core issue ? And then it turns out that it's easier to look at funny stuff posted by anyone than diving emotionnaly into the life turmoils of our real close friends ? I firmly believe the simple solution is to have more than one account.

I know people with multi-accounts, and multi-hundreds of friends accounts and they all say they're annoyed by how irrelevant most of the content is by default even with as few as 30-50 friends on an account.

I have ~60 contacts and I don't suffer from that effect. Doesn't mean I don't believe you though, as I know I made sure to force everyone's updates.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by tgrass »

Many of the complaints could be resolved with more transparency on Facebook's part. The frustrations seem to be generally focused on managing communication: incoming and outgoing, an issue of curation.

The problem is, despite Facebook having many tools to calibrate one's communications, Facebook is still a blackbox. We click the appropriate Account Settings radio button and like the good scientists we are, wait to see what happens. The fact of the matter is, we are pulling a lever and hoping it is attached to some mechanism on the other side.

The same is true of Google and SEO.

Odd that obfuscation is the hallmark of our internet experiences.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by obituary_latte »

scott_s wrote: post #60
obituary_latte wrote: post #12

My problem with fb and the reason I don't use it is simple: principal. I understand the model, and oblige with google (though not g+ as it is pretty quiet in my neck of the woods). But to not only give them the value of my data but also have them go around changing things like registered email without so much as a heads up is a slap in the face. It's like a conceited bus monitor that just goes ahead and "does what's…

I saw the email thing as a non-issue - if you're looking at my info on FB, then the easiest way to contact me is on FB . It doesn't bother me that people aren't referred to my Gmail account instead.

Again, it's the principle of it--have the decency to tell people what's up. Same applies for all the privacy and other changes that have happened un-announced and un-explained, not just the email change.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by k2xl »

"One evening, over pizza and wine she’s telling me about a breakup and a poem she posted. I never saw the poem. When I visited her Timeline I realized she had been posting every day and it never once showed up in my Newsfeed. Instead I see a photo of someone I don’t know; gliding down my Newsfeed simply because one of my friends “liked” it and the original poster doesn’t have their privacy settings in place."

Aye, totally agree. The day Facebook launched EdgeRank was the day Facebook started it's decline. In fact, there's a pattern that happens to companies that try and "assume" what their users want to see.

Re: Goodbye Facebook.

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Post by danso »

> Conversing with a friend, I start to share a story I’d earlier posted on Facebook. Since she didn’t comment or “like” the post I guessed she hadn’t yet seen it. Instead, she cuts me short: “Yeah, I saw your post on Facebook.” And that was it. No dialog, no joy at conversing with each other, just friends passively watching each other from a distance. I’m guilty, I’ve done it too. We’ve become quiet ships, passing by in the dark silence of the night.

Hmm, that's just a tough anecdote to use to make his point...it could be that that his friend is not much of a conversationalist with him.

But I admit to using FB to promote things that I don't feel like wasting real-time talking about...like projects or articles I liked...And everyone who's ever been on the receiving end of a mass-email is happy about that.

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