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Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by d2049 »

hassaanr wrote: post #162
d2049 wrote: post #155

Is anyone else thinking that it might not be a good idea to give away your voice and face to a startup that is making digital clones of people?

This is a valid concern, but we’ve always been very serious about consent and privacy. Our models cannot be used without explicit verbal/visual consent and you hold the keys to your clone.

Probably the phrase "you hold the keys to your clone" should give anyone pause.

I once worked at a company where the head of security gave a talk to every incoming technical staff member and the gist was, "You can't trust anyone who says they take privacy seriously. You must be paranoid at all times." When you've been around the block enough times, you realize they were right.

You can guarantee you won't be hacked? You can guarantee that if the company becomes massively successful, you won't start selling data to third parties ten years down the road?

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by jncfhnb »

hassaanr wrote: post #162
d2049 wrote: post #155

Is anyone else thinking that it might not be a good idea to give away your voice and face to a startup that is making digital clones of people?

This is a valid concern, but we’ve always been very serious about consent and privacy. Our models cannot be used without explicit verbal/visual consent and you hold the keys to your clone.

And you promise to never get acquired right?

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by evilduck »

hassaanr wrote: post #166
bozhark wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They clearly explain how you retain ownership of your own data and they allow you to monetize the data for your own behalf where they get a sub fraction percent on top of if they sell or use your data internally or externally you get a set value or scalable metric corresponding to usage? Right?

We might need to do a better job of explaining this- but this is true. You retain ownership of your data and we don't sell or use it (other than to train your specific clone that you can delete at any time). Personally, I think too many AI companies are playing fast and loose in this space, so I get the concern. We want to do it right.

If your company is on the brink of collapse and you need funding to stay afloat, will your new majority shareholder be just as trustworthy? If you make if big and the difference between a million in revenue and a billion in revenue is misusing personal data, can you resist the temptation? Those are the concerns and you're not providing answers to them.

Like it or not, 23andMe is going down this path right now with millions of customer's genetic data and you're going to get the same scrutiny when you ask people for personal, intimate data.

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by causal »

hassaanr wrote: post #106
causal wrote: post #100

1) Your website, and the dialup sounds, might be my favorite thing about all of this. I also like the cowboy hat. 2) Maybe it's just degrading under load, but I didn't think either chat experience was very good. Both avatars interrupted themselves a lot, and the chat felt more like a jumbled mess of half-thoughts than anything. 3) The image recognition is pretty good though, when I could get one of the avatars to slo…

Glad you liked the website it was such fun project. Getting the hug of death from HN so that might be why you're getting a worse experience, please try again :)

Tried again today, latency seemed a little better- still a lot of interrupting himself to change thoughts.

I'm still most impressed by the image recognition - could clearly read even tiny or partially obscured print on products I held up and name them accordingly. Curious how you're achieving that level of fidelity without sacrificing throughput.

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by madduci »

d2049 wrote: post #155

Is anyone else thinking that it might not be a good idea to give away your voice and face to a startup that is making digital clones of people?

People were prone to install the OpenAI app and use the voice assistant, forgetting that the recorded voice can be used to create fake audios (see Scarlett Johansson).

Same for Google Assistant, Siri & co.

So basically I don't see why people should be concerned only for the usage by a small startup, instead of being scared by tech giants

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by butlike »

CapeTheory wrote: post #55
wantsanagent wrote: post #38

Functionality for a demo launch: 9.5/10 Creepiness: 10/10

I was just about to try it, but the idea of allowing Firefox access to my audio/video to talk to a machine-generated person gave me such a bad feeling, I couldn't go through with it even fuelled by my morbid curiosity.

I did it. The demo is kinda cool. If they want to steal an unshowered, back-lit, messy hair picture of me, go for it. I can't imagine it'd be that useful right now.

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by portmanteur »

hassaanr wrote: post #176
portmanteur wrote: post #165

Have you considered giving your digital twin a jolly aspect? I've wondered if an AI video agent could be made to appear real time, despite a real processing latency, if the AI were to give a hearty laugh before all of its' responses. >So Carter, what did you do this weekend? >Hohoho, you know! I spent some time working on my pet AI projects! I wonder if some standard set of personable mannerisms could be used to brid…

This is definitely a good idea! I think the hard part is making it contextual and relevant to the last question/response, in which case the LLM comes into the equation again. Something we're looking at though!

Perhaps use a small, fast LLM to maintain a rolling "disposition" state, and for each of perhaps a handful of dispositions, have a handful of bridging emotes/gestures. You can have the small LLM use the next-to-last/second-most-recent user input to control the disposition async'ly, and in moments where it's not clear just say "That's a good question," "Let me think about that," or "I think that..." etc.

Re: Show HN: A real time AI video agent with under 1 second of latency

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Post by beAbU »

amelius wrote: post #212
whiplash451 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see it the other way around. I think our human-human interaction style will “leak” into the way we interact with humanoid AI agents. Movie-Her style.

Only if the AI gets annoyed when you don't treat it with respect.

Seems easy enough to bring in to the system prompt.

``` Even though you are not human, and an AI assistant, you will express annoyance when you are treated like a soulless computer, instead of a virtual assistant. You will appreciate "Please"s and "Thank you"s, and you will express annoyance if your user does not converse with you using full and respectful sentences. ```

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