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The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Can you say that out loud in a sentence please?

Yeah, they at least pronounce aluminium like they spell it. It's not a "Leicester" piss take.

> It's not a "Leicester" piss take.

It's a funny example but to be fair to the British that also happens in other Germanic languages and it also happens a hell of a lot more in Romance languages.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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Having grown up in the US with what I would consider a higher than average exposure to the early 2000s internet, at least compared to other peers my age, much of my ability to read and write actually came directly from social media, instant messengers and online games rather than books. This meant I often found myself struggling with spelling errors in English class which sadly resulted in deducted points from my ess…

> Unfortunately my teachers were a little unreasonable about this and would still deduct points when I pointed this out... I can see the teacher's perspective here. I don't think it's unreasonable for teachers to mark this down, though I don't think your request to get back the points was unreasonable either. Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arg…

If you live in the US, I agree that you must use American English.

But even us people that live outside of the US/UK/related countries often got errors marked, because we used the wrong regional variant... In Europe, British English is used as a reference point, but I had a similar problem as GP.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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How curious! (I feel that I've observed the Britishization of the word "curious" in my lifetime. As a child, it meant only interested, intrigued. Now it also means strange or bizarre.)

This might be my fault. I was in Charlottesville for a few months about 16 years ago doing some work for a startup, hanging out in my off hours with a group of sorority girls who had worked for me in London when I’d been an impresario.

I say (or rather, said, as this episode made me very conscious of it) “hmm, curious” almost reflexively when working on something. They aped me. They partied, they spread the meme. Within a week I was suddenly overhearing people in cafes and gas stations going “hmm, curious” and by the time I left town I felt like I was living in a poorly written Monty Python sketch (or perhaps a Lovecraft bit), as an epidemic of “mmm, curious” had taken over the townspeople and the UVA student body. The latter all then went home at the end of the year, towards the end of my stay there, and spread it to every corner of the U.S.

When I went back a year later, they were all still at it.

I guess this ties in with the whole “teenage girls introduce new language” piece a few weeks back.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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post #27

Having grown up in the US with what I would consider a higher than average exposure to the early 2000s internet, at least compared to other peers my age, much of my ability to read and write actually came directly from social media, instant messengers and online games rather than books. This meant I often found myself struggling with spelling errors in English class which sadly resulted in deducted points from my ess…

> Unfortunately my teachers were a little unreasonable about this and would still deduct points when I pointed this out... I can see the teacher's perspective here. I don't think it's unreasonable for teachers to mark this down, though I don't think your request to get back the points was unreasonable either. Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arg…

> Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arguably a skill they're trying to teach you

Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color.

> don't want your reader to see "enrol" and spend the next 5-10 seconds pondering if you're illiterate or unable to run a spellchecker instead of spending that time digesting your actual point

Fair point. At the very least, one should be aware of the different usages.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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As an Aussie I get a kick out of seeing Australianisms get picked up in the global vernacular. No worries seems to be increasing common outside of Australia, and cooked (to describe something that's fucked up) also seems to be prolific on social media these days.

Juice Media's "honest government ads" are a goldmine for Aussie-speak, "colossal shitfuckery" so perfectly nails the dank machinations of Australian tech and politics.

Now with added US colossal shitfuckery: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHuMjIhS6t0

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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I'm finna grab that phrase with glee, and stow it in my tucker bag.

I think more Aussie way to say that would be: 'I'm heaps keen to chuck that saying into the old tucker bag'...

Yeah nah.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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> Unfortunately my teachers were a little unreasonable about this and would still deduct points when I pointed this out... I can see the teacher's perspective here. I don't think it's unreasonable for teachers to mark this down, though I don't think your request to get back the points was unreasonable either. Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arg…

> Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arguably a skill they're trying to teach you Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color. > don't want your reader to see "enrol" and spend the next 5-10 seconds pondering if you're illiterate or unable to run a spellchecker instead of spending that time digesting your actual point Fair po…

> Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color.

Not sure what you mean by "distinguish". But just because you understand something that doesn't mean it can't slow you down, distract you, or be detrimental some other way.

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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> Communicating effectively with your particular audience (the local American audience one in this case) is arguably a skill they're trying to teach you Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color. > don't want your reader to see "enrol" and spend the next 5-10 seconds pondering if you're illiterate or unable to run a spellchecker instead of spending that time digesting your actual point Fair po…

> Please find me the numpty who can't distinguish colour from color. Not sure what you mean by "distinguish". But just because you understand something that doesn't mean it can't slow you down, distract you, or be detrimental some other way.

> just because you understand something that doesn't mean it can't slow you down, distract you, or be detrimental some other way

Sure. I'm just sceptical that errant signal isn't lost in the background of the American dialect's regional heterogeneity.

If I ask someone in San Francisco "what colour pop" they want, the friction won't come from the "u."

Re: The other British invasion: how UK lingo conquered the US

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How curious! (I feel that I've observed the Britishization of the word "curious" in my lifetime. As a child, it meant only interested, intrigued. Now it also means strange or bizarre.)

I think the default understanding here (UK) would still be the same. I wonder if it’s Sherlock making the other understanding more popular.
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