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Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by smitty1e »

thrance wrote: post #33
smitty1e wrote: post #18

No. In terms of pure Maslow, the tendency of modernity to destroy the transcendency of life, leaving the moral vacuum we see, is the central issue. Settle down; marry; enjoy parenthood; participate in a community of faith; ignore the haters and their ersatz noise.

This comment reeks of right-wing pseudo-intellectualism, from the likes of Jordan Peterson. Marriage, religion and parenthood are not answers to teenagers social media addiction.

Oh, yes they are, by providing a meaningful direction in which to progress.

Lasting societies are a continuum.

But I see my haters are out on parade.

Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by smitty1e »

nielsbot wrote: post #23
smitty1e wrote: post #18

No. In terms of pure Maslow, the tendency of modernity to destroy the transcendency of life, leaving the moral vacuum we see, is the central issue. Settle down; marry; enjoy parenthood; participate in a community of faith; ignore the haters and their ersatz noise.

What “moral vacuum” are you talking about? You sure you’re not upset by unfettered capitalism instead?

Saddened by useless hedonism and stuff worship, yes.

Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by snozolli »

aurizon wrote: post #57
cultureswitch wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having been on the receiving end of actual real-life bullying from 90% of my peers (the other 10% being bystanders) through high school because I was younger (among other things), I can tell you that Lord of the Flies is in some ways depicting the kids as less cruel than real kids are.

Yes, when I was in school each hall and each stair landing was attended by a teacher/monitor so gross physical bullying was limited. These days we have an unruly mob very under supervised. I am sure the frequent gun confrontations we see in the news are caused by bullying and the bullied resort to guns as the only way to get relief from the bullies!

I am sure the frequent gun confrontations we see in the news are caused by bullying and the bullied resort to guns as the only way to get relief from the bullies!

Why? Bullied kids aren't murderers. Psychopaths are murderers.

I've read numerous accounts from people who were in high school when Columbine happened. The media latched onto this narrative that the perpetrators had been bullied. This resulted in schools around the country tormenting already-bullied kids by encouraging their peers to out them, then subjecting them to clumsy interventions by undertrained school psychologists.

Anyway, I think it's dangerous to spread the myth that bullied kids lash out with violence. Has it happened? Sure. Is it common? No.

Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by theGnuMe »

danielbln wrote: post #31
smitty1e wrote: post #18

No. In terms of pure Maslow, the tendency of modernity to destroy the transcendency of life, leaving the moral vacuum we see, is the central issue. Settle down; marry; enjoy parenthood; participate in a community of faith; ignore the haters and their ersatz noise.

What's a community of faith?

it's a facebook group.

Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by watwut »

tiagod wrote: post #22
watwut wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That book is a fiction. We really really should stop using events in a work of fiction as arguments about real world.

I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss such comparisons. Fiction can be a great tool to explore very real truths.

They are still fictions. You can use them as "what ifs", but not as an argument for "what happened".

Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by watwut »

dancc wrote: post #21
watwut wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That book is a fiction. We really really should stop using events in a work of fiction as arguments about real world.

Have you read 1984? It's quite useful for discussing the state of the real world.

And again, none of it ever happened and it is a work of fiction. It is warning of what might happen, it is a political point author is making.

But, none of that stuff happened. It is not how real world oppressions play out in real world. And that is not even criticism, I like that book a lot. I just dont treat it as something factual.

Re: Has Social Media Fuelled a Teen-Suicide Crisis?

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Post by watwut »

aurizon wrote: post #59
watwut wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That book is a fiction. We really really should stop using events in a work of fiction as arguments about real world.

So we should abandon Einstein's works? His 'Gedanken experiments'? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz11b5mkNGQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einstein%27s_thought_experimen...

We should not treat them as equivalent of actual experiment.
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