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YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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I've been in the VC-backed startup space as a lead/principal engineer or technical advisor for the last 4 years. In that time, I've worked at 1 startup that closed a $100m C, one that closed a multi-million B, one that recently closed a $30m C, and one that started with a $8m seed. I've started my own startup and worked with founders of other startups on the side advising on the technical side (and once in a while bu…

The problem here is not that they stole the idea, it's that they literally just took an open-source codebase and filed off the serial numbers to claim it as their own proprietary work, and they did so in the most comically inept way possible. From the OP: PearAI offers an AI coding editor. The startup’s founder Duke Pan has openly said that it’s a cloned copy of another AI editor called Continue, which was covered un…

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Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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The problem here is not that they stole the idea, it's that they literally just took an open-source codebase and filed off the serial numbers to claim it as their own proprietary work, and they did so in the most comically inept way possible. From the OP: PearAI offers an AI coding editor. The startup’s founder Duke Pan has openly said that it’s a cloned copy of another AI editor called Continue, which was covered un…

It doesn't matter so long as they didn't violate any licenses. Where the product starts and where it ends will be two totally different endpoints that are sure to diverge once they find their domain and business model.

Except they did blatantly violate the license of the code they stole and only fixed it after being called out.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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We recently applied to the current YC batch and got rejected. Seeing this just made me die a little inside. We are a small SaaS that has very happy paying customers and a huge market. We solve a boring problem, with boring technologies and we are not the next OpenAI or Stripe. Yet we have easily a 10,000 X potential. I feel like YC now prioritizes funding things that can be hyped more instead of actually funding thin…

I would not be surprised if they got the funding precisely because of the controversy potential.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

#155

We recently applied to the current YC batch and got rejected. Seeing this just made me die a little inside. We are a small SaaS that has very happy paying customers and a huge market. We solve a boring problem, with boring technologies and we are not the next OpenAI or Stripe. Yet we have easily a 10,000 X potential. I feel like YC now prioritizes funding things that can be hyped more instead of actually funding thin…

Your profile mentions something with Blockchain? I'm not too sure, but are there any use cases except for Bitcoin stuff? From the solutions I heard there are offen more practicable solutions available compared to using Blockchain tech.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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> bad teams can rarely survive turbulence and it is so hard to tell if a team has the right "vibes" or not. Their apology makes it pretty clear that this team doesn't have the right vibes: "We thought the license in the root repo wasn’t that important, so we just generated one that we thought was open." The license that was generated was the "Pear Enterprise License". These guys thought the license didn't matter so t…

It's very possible that they have the wrong vibes and will fail; this is why any VC is smart to bet on multiple teams, even if many are building very similar products. A good portion of those teams will go nowhere and fall apart by themselves. Even the best VC-partner can't always tell how a teams vibes are from the inside until it's too late.

Maybe you're right. I'd like to think that "are these the type of people who turn to ChatGPT for completely inappropriate things" would have made it into the VC screening process, but then again "using ChatGPT for completely inappropriate things" is practically a requirement to get funding these days.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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> Unless, the investor is just trying to fund the most ruthless, least ethical, win-at-all-costs type of people This is exactly what VCs are looking for. They are going to hand you a check worth several hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars. They are not doing this because it's a charity; they are doing this because they are making a bet that they'll get some return on that investment. This is the purpose of a…

Spoken as if there was only one single binary option for investment! The strategy implies that the marginal value of the lack of ethics/the personality type to do that is the thing thats worth investment. If thats true, then venture capitalism and perhaps capitalism itself is super fucked: a machine for developing and rewarding the worst impulses of humanity.

Investors cheer when Uber, Lyft, and UPS drivers are treated as contractors.

They frown when they try to advocate for more rights, better employment conditions, and better pay.

Such is the nature of modern capitalism.

The Costco's and James Sinegal's of the world are few and rare; I wish we'd see more companies and leadership teams that valued labor and were more ethical. But a survey of the most successful CEO's (Ellison, Zuckerberg, Musk, et al) and companies leads us to believe that such principles are often opposed to the machinations of capitalism.

Re: YC criticized for backing AI startup that simply cloned another AI startup

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I've been in the VC-backed startup space as a lead/principal engineer or technical advisor for the last 4 years. In that time, I've worked at 1 startup that closed a $100m C, one that closed a multi-million B, one that recently closed a $30m C, and one that started with a $8m seed. I've started my own startup and worked with founders of other startups on the side advising on the technical side (and once in a while bu…

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