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Re: Piracy

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Post by zgeor »

dailykoder wrote: post #3

> The streaming platforms, for which you pay full price, don’t even let you choose the quality of the movie you want to watch. What you watch today might disappear from all platforms in two months. I have seen so many songs disappear from Spotify lately that I am considering to hoard music again. Gladly I have most of those that disappeared on my HDD anyways, since it's been mostly old songs, but yeah. Was kinda frus…

It's nice of Spotify to at least leave the names of the songs.

Years ago I had several huge music video playlists which today stand at 80% of what they previously were.

Re: Piracy

#12

Post by get-logname »

dailykoder wrote: post #3

> The streaming platforms, for which you pay full price, don’t even let you choose the quality of the movie you want to watch. What you watch today might disappear from all platforms in two months. I have seen so many songs disappear from Spotify lately that I am considering to hoard music again. Gladly I have most of those that disappeared on my HDD anyways, since it's been mostly old songs, but yeah. Was kinda frus…

This and also the increasing number of adverts/sponsored recommendations and annoying notification for stuff I don't follow.

Re: Piracy

#13

Post by happymellon »

jstanley wrote: post #4
noncoml wrote: post #2

1. Being pedantic even if you own the medium(cd, cartrige, floppy disk), you still don’t own the software. You just own the license to use it. 2. So you are pro-Spotify but anti-Steam? All the arguments you gave above against Steam apply to Spotify as well. Sounds to me you are trying to justify your decision to pirate to yourself.

On Spotify you pay a monthly fee and listen to as much music as you want, but on Steam you have to "buy" each game individually.

I have games that I have given money to access many years ago, and I can still select them in Steam and install them without paying rent again.

Steam is better value for me over more than a couple of months, and so was eMusic until Sony ruined it.

Re: Piracy

#14

Post by shiroiushi »

Log_out_ wrote: post #10
hulitu wrote: post #7

> They sell games for $60 and then add microtransactions, turning them into service games. Just. Don't. Buy. This. Crap. There are other games which you can play.

Update: The non crap you bought is now micro transaction crap. Bait and switch! Have you considered alternative ideas now that benevolent capitalism and resposible consumer are falling apart?

Just download some emulators and some roms for them, and you can play thousands of 80s-90s games all you want for free. You'll never have to worry about them turning into microtransaction crap, plus the gameplay is far better than anything current.

Re: Piracy

#15

Post by pathartl »

happymellon wrote: post #13
jstanley wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On Spotify you pay a monthly fee and listen to as much music as you want, but on Steam you have to "buy" each game individually.

I have games that I have given money to access many years ago, and I can still select them in Steam and install them without paying rent again. Steam is better value for me over more than a couple of months, and so was eMusic until Sony ruined it.

How about games that require an account in order to play at all? It's not a new concept and has been around for at least 15 years. Additionally, by modern games relying on matchmaking and lobby systems, almost any multiplayer game over the past 5-10 years is unplayable without an internet connection.

Re: Piracy

#16

Post by shiroiushi »

3abiton wrote: post #5
noncoml wrote: post #2

1. Being pedantic even if you own the medium(cd, cartrige, floppy disk), you still don’t own the software. You just own the license to use it. 2. So you are pro-Spotify but anti-Steam? All the arguments you gave above against Steam apply to Spotify as well. Sounds to me you are trying to justify your decision to pirate to yourself.

But the reasons still stand, despite the author's conclusion. I agree with all the downsides of streaming/renting software. That's what it should be called. Even when you buy a digital media that remains hosted on a cloud server, you never really own it. There should be a new word for it.

We can call it "buying", even though it doesn't entail "owning", just as long as "pirating" isn't "stealing".

Re: Piracy

#17

Post by llmthrow102 »

hulitu wrote: post #7

> They sell games for $60 and then add microtransactions, turning them into service games. Just. Don't. Buy. This. Crap. There are other games which you can play.

Completely agree. When you see a business model like this, you know everything about the game is made to get you to spend more money and spend more time in it rather than actually have fun.

Maybe that's to be expected from SaaS B2B software or something, but there's no reason to settle for this kind of garbage in games. Tons of alternatives exist in older games, indie games, and even some AAA games where there is a creative vision with a goal that isn't to empty your wallet or waste your time as much as possible.

Re: Piracy

#18

Post by ilrwbwrkhv »

I have pirated everything my whole life and I will proudly pirate these things forever. I do pay for original music, media, movies, but I also pirate everything. These two things are not mutually exclusive and I think every person who is interested in having and owning their own media should be pirating.

Re: Piracy

#19

Post by jampekka »

shiroiushi wrote: post #14
Log_out_ wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Update: The non crap you bought is now micro transaction crap. Bait and switch! Have you considered alternative ideas now that benevolent capitalism and resposible consumer are falling apart?

Just download some emulators and some roms for them, and you can play thousands of 80s-90s games all you want for free. You'll never have to worry about them turning into microtransaction crap, plus the gameplay is far better than anything current.

Or just pirate new games while you're at it? (Which I fully support.)

Re: Piracy

#20

Post by fersarr »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #18

I have pirated everything my whole life and I will proudly pirate these things forever. I do pay for original music, media, movies, but I also pirate everything. These two things are not mutually exclusive and I think every person who is interested in having and owning their own media should be pirating.

How do you pirate songs these days?
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