There is a part in the Netflix culture doc where it talks about how sometimes people do bad things, and Netflix tries to not overcorrect by implementing burdensome policies on the company as a knee-jerk reaction to a single bad actor. The conclusion (YC's brand has been tarnished because of the lower quality companies in their larger batches who do bad things) doesn't follow from the evidence of this ONE company doin…
Y Combinator Traded Prestige for Growth
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#72The above is a very educated guess on pearai, but whether or not YC engages in nepotism or not is unmistakable to me. They do and there is real corruption in the selection process. It’s not just gross incompetence.
Not only is there actual evidence that can be sourced but I can offer anecdotal evidence from inside sources from within the family involved with a company that passed via nepotism.
the company is called dreamworld. See here: https://www.pcgamer.com/dreamworld-infinite-world-mmo-kickst...
There’s whole YouTube videos about them including a post from one of the founders ex girlfriend. It’s all very shady the articles around them.
I encountered this company by being close friends with someone that is within the family related to the founders of dreamworld. I was literally told that the company succeeded because of family connections from dreamworlds ceo:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/garrisonbellack
Garrison is the ceo of dreamworld. And he’s from a rich family headed by his dad:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-r-bellack
who is part of some super rich real estate fund.
The bellacks regularly have big family gatherings in Tahoe and one of the attendees is Geoff ralston the previous president of YC.
Source not only confirmed dreamworld got selected via favors from Geoff but that Geoff was telling stories at this family retreat about how he had to fire Sam Altman from YC after getting a call from Paul graham. Yes pg fired Sam Altman from YC.
Dreamworld as it is right now got additional seed funding from VCs via connections as well and they are sitting on a pot of assets which is generating net positive income while that company can just stay afloat indefinitely. They don’t go through the hardships and risks other startup do thanks to nepotism.
There are other people in the bellack family creating startups and looking to Geoff to funnel them through YC via nepotism so Geoff is primed to make it happen again for sure.
So yeah. I’m sure Geoff isn’t the only person from within YC who does that.
Hacker news is pretty pristine, but the fund itself does shady stuff.
At least I think hacker news is pristine. Let’s see what happens to my post and my account. Maybe the moderators will be more strict with me? And use that to ban me? I am a bit rough with my opinions. But who knows?
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#73> This decline will continue until cool, innovative companies no longer see any reason to apply. I am the furthest thing from a business man / start-up news addict, but even I know that the point of starting a company is to make money (perhaps fulfilling a need or niche, sure) and "being cool" should have nothing to do with it. Hell, "cool" often doesn't really square with being "innovative" anyway.
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#75IMHO this post misses the fact that YC becoming a prestige institution is itself a sort of failure mode. You don't want to attract founders who figure YC is a low-risk alternative to grad school that will look good on their resume. It's tough to avoid that outcome while still conferring positive signal to VCs/potential employees, though. I'm sure YC/Garry see something in the PearAI founders' ability to market themse…
> You don't want to attract founders who figure YC is a low-risk alternative to grad school Of course YC would want that (in the short- to mid-term). The only thing YC has to do is produce a portfolio of companies that looks good enough that other VCs invest into that. This is completely disconnected to building viable businesses, as they just don't have to be the ones that are left holding the bag, and as an acceler…
That's really short term thinking.
It might work for a class or two, but eventually VCs will realize that they're getting bad returns from their investments, and YC won't be nearly as attractive as it is today.
For long term success, YC needs to pick companies that will eventually become successful. Particularly the big, standout successes.
> The easiest way to fill that pipeline is to pair current hype XYZ with Harvard (or other ivy league) undergrads (or high-level ex-FANG people). As long as their ROI stays above a certain threshold, that's the main way to scale up YC.
If you think that's the path to good long-term ROI, I have a startup to sell you.
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You don't want to attract founders who figure YC is a low-risk alternative to grad school Of course YC would want that (in the short- to mid-term). The only thing YC has to do is produce a portfolio of companies that looks good enough that other VCs invest into that. This is completely disconnected to building viable businesses, as they just don't have to be the ones that are left holding the bag, and as an acceler…
YC doesn’t benefit from founders who are just looking to pad their resume because they don’t follow through to a liquidity event for YC.
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#77The point the author misses is that you need to think of YC not as an organization but as a segment of time for personal and team reflection. It can help you develop a coherent narrative for your path and goals. Others may deride this characterization and say it’s too expensive. But the only way to enforce that kind of reflection is to raise the stakes and give it a real opportunity cost.
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#78One of the biggest shocks to me was that YC now invests in war and killing people. Before their closest connecting to killing people was investing in companies that had severe negative effects for society, like Doordash or AirBnb. Now they're helping people make missiles. https://www.ycombinator.com/companies/ares-industries
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#79Comments here miss a lot as well, (although I agree that YC’s prestige days are over) — PG’s plan was ALWAYS to be able to do more. He lays out the reasoning in an essay maybe eight years ago — if your portfolio looks like 1-2 companies (now 3) out of 500 made 80% of the returns, what should you do?
There are basically three answers to this: Rejoice, Write 497 less checks next time, or write 1,000 more checks in the hope of getting a fourth.
PG’s head was at: write 1,000 more checks. I like this attitude a lot, and believe there are good social, macroeconomic and financial reasons to act this way. Of course you will put up with more failures in that mode — you already went and got the “good” ones — you are now picking ones you didn’t love that much in the sure knowledge that you’ll happily be wrong about one (or maybe even two) of them.
Especially when you’re considering what to do mid-ZIRP, this is I think the only rational strategy if you want to make more money and help the world see more cool things.
That said, one thing YC companies benefitted from immensely in the height of the prestige era was just that, prestige; it was a virtuous cycle in that getting in to YC guaranteed a quality seed and probably A round just on the name. In that way, it was like getting in to Stanford or MIT. Today, along with mentoring, one of the main benefits is the larger network internally, and this is a different thing. Possibly better, possibly not. I do think that if the prestige is needed for their model, they’re probably over scaled for today’s markets and venture money.
Of bigger concern, I would say should be the question: “what does pre-seed/seed even look like in five years?” — Much of what seed capital is for can be done with quality LLMs today — and I expect that trend to continue. We saw the rise of pre-seed firms in exactly this economic environment — through the middle of the dotcom one boom, a tech startup was EXPENSIVE — ten engineers, $30k sparcstations, long data center contracts — the cash was needed. YC started at an inflection point when open source tooling and availability was driving that cost down.
The next YC / early stage fund is going to look very, very different than the last one. And that’s okay! It will be fun to see what’s next.
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#80> This decline will continue until cool, innovative companies no longer see any reason to apply. I am the furthest thing from a business man / start-up news addict, but even I know that the point of starting a company is to make money (perhaps fulfilling a need or niche, sure) and "being cool" should have nothing to do with it. Hell, "cool" often doesn't really square with being "innovative" anyway.
Startups determine their ability to execute, and thus generate revenue (or promises of same) from appearing “cool” to prospective talent and future investors. Without it, they wither and die.