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SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Post by hoseja »

mc32 wrote: post #236
bnralt wrote: post #156

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Maybe this is better: Cruise line A and cruise line B drop their passengers off at a remote island for 5 days, and then come to pick them up and take them home. After cruise line B drops theirs off, the cruise ships breaks down, and the passengers can't be picked up after 5 days, so they're stuck on the island with no immediate way to get off. Cruise line A says "OK, the next cruise ship we send will be at half capac…

The main reason people don’t want to call it a rescue is because they dislike Musk. If there were no politics involved people wouldn’t be handwringing themselves so much over the word rescue. If the spaceship that took you somewhere wasn’t able to get you back as planned and cannot get you back as planned and someone else has to go get those people, that’s a rescue.

They really hate that Elon is actually sending a ~~submarine~~ capsule to get people stranded in a ~~cave~~ metal tube.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Post by jessriedel »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #347
jessriedel wrote: post #345

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Yea NASA does not do a great job explaining what science is happening on the ISS You could maybe start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_Crew_Flight_Test#ISS_st... > On 10 June, with all their initial Starliner testing completed, the CFT crew started working on general ISS maintenance and research activities. They started their day by measuring their temperature, blood pressure, pulse, and respiratory rate.…

> they are brilliant, expensive, and highly trained lab technicians who prep and repair equipment and then hit the "go" button for experiments that were designed by, and will be analyzed by, scientists on Earth True. I was just curious if having two extra pairs of hands was letting new experiments be done, or existing ones be done more thoroughly.

Gotcha. Yea, my impression is that they always have a pretty deep backlog of maintenance tasks that can be done any time there is downtime or extra hands. That might also be true for science, e.g., repeat some experiment with different settings/conditions. (Certainly, in case of unexpected problems/delays they already have a triage plan for which experiments are performed and which are sacrificed.)

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Post by nick3443 »

inglor_cz wrote: post #196
ethbr1 wrote: post #144

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The point that half this comment section is missing is this is the sort of thing we want to encourage. The US spent extra money funding two separate vendors. One vendor exhibited a high level of risk in their first return. The astronauts were able to be returned on the second, already proven vendor. That's a great place to be in! The alternative, having to return astronauts on a high risk vehicle because it's the onl…

What is not great is the fact that vendor 1 exhibited a string of concerning anomalies and accidents. Vendor 1 may be institutionally unfit to be a leg on which the US space program stands.

Year reading the starliner wikipedia page was eye opening, every single test phase had issues, and repeated issues over a long period with the same systems (thrusters) is really damning.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Post by delfinom »

EasyMark wrote: post #325
wonderwonder wrote: post #307

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Not sure how soon if ever Boeing is going to be putting astronauts in space again. I see Blue Origin stepping up and taking their place. Agreed though, should be a set of compatible standards for space suits.

Normally I would disagree with you, but Boeing is facing death by a thousand cuts right now. I could see the US government not letting them fail however. So I’d give it 50/50, not 100% no-fly-again

Yep, Boeing indirectly employs millions in the US. They are going to get a taxpayer funded bailout and golden parachutes whether or not we like it.

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Post by unethical_ban »

lupusreal wrote: post #360
unethical_ban wrote: post #312

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>but you're pulling the ackshully bullshit because you don't like the company that has done it. I wonder if you, like me, have taken a vacation to travel half-way across the United States to watch a SpaceX launch, or had discussions with former heads of NASA as far back as 2011 about what the company meant/means for manned spaceflight. I wonder if you grew up around astronauts or knew people who died on Columbia. Thi…

I will repeat myself, you wouldn't be doing this pedantic nitpicking bullshit with the word 'rescue' in any other context.

No need to repeat yourself, it serves only to self-gratify.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Post by lupusreal »

unethical_ban wrote: post #365
lupusreal wrote: post #360

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I will repeat myself, you wouldn't be doing this pedantic nitpicking bullshit with the word 'rescue' in any other context.

No need to repeat yourself, it serves only to self-gratify.

Oh yeah that's annoying. But please, tell me more about all your vacations.

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Post by convnet »

wonderwonder wrote: post #307
mab122 wrote: post #272

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They should be! Have we not learned anything from Apollo? :D Or atleast provision an adapter or something.

Not sure how soon if ever Boeing is going to be putting astronauts in space again. I see Blue Origin stepping up and taking their place. Agreed though, should be a set of compatible standards for space suits.

Blue origin so far is a litigation company masquerading as a space company. I'll believe it when I see it.

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Post by [deleted] »

dredmorbius wrote: post #357
dang wrote: post #344

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We can do that too, or at least mark the low-quality subthreads offtopic (which downranks them). But if we don't take the provocation out of the title, it'll only generate more of the same.

There's also your brilliant practice of collecting off-topic threads under a "sweep" comment, which strikes me as astoundingly effective at re-railing derailed discussions.

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Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Post by unethical_ban »

lupusreal wrote: post #366
unethical_ban wrote: post #365

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No need to repeat yourself, it serves only to self-gratify.

Oh yeah that's annoying. But please, tell me more about all your vacations.

I really hope you're as young as you you're acting.
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