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Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by DiabloD3 »

MartinCron wrote: post #60
Cd00d wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for that. I had no idea the Fire lacked a hard volume button. I almost compulsively use the one on my iPad, as I find quantified increments far easier than sliding my fat finger over something my fat finger is blocking.

Not only that, but the soft volume controls aren't uniformly available. When you're watching a movie in Netflix, you have to stop the playback to adjust volume, but you can't hear the volume until you start playback again. Just painful. Note: this experience may have been fixed, I haven't used my kindle fire for watching movies in months, for obvious reasons.

Its been fixed upstream by Netflix.... but why didn't you just change the firmware on your Fire to ICS like I did? Standardized soft vol avail everywhere.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by awakeasleep »

MartinCron wrote: post #52
btipling wrote: post #25

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Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.

Future-proof is a reasonable goal for a desktop PC, television, digital camera, automobile, wristwatch, or other more mature technology. It's just too soon to expect future-proofing from tablets or phones. As long as the tablet continues to do what it's supposed to do , it shouldn't really matter that there's a newer OS out there. As compared to the Kindle fire, which was never any good at doing what it was supposed…

How does the future-proofedness of Android tablets compare to the first iPad?

I think it's held up pretty well, it doesn't get apps or features that require the camera, but aside from that it still gets updates and can run stuff.

Andriod tablets can run new apps but not the operating system upgrades? I don't have any experience to know.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by eminkel »

SwellJoe wrote: post #50
SoftwareMaven wrote: post #39

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It has nothing to do with numbers versus names. It has to do with the knowledge that, if I buy an iOS device today, I know I'll get the next couple of OS releases. The is absolutely not the case with Android (unless you want to deal with rooting your device). I don't think anybody would care about buying a device with a slightly out-of-date OS if they knew updates would be coming.

Nexus branded devices do get the OS updates in a timely manner. It's part of the Google Nexus experience. This is actually one of the reasons Google keeps putting out devices...to keep their OEMs honest and moving forward. It isn't working as well as I'd like (my HTC Sensation 4G which I bought on short notice to replace my Nexus One, which broke while I was traveling, still doesn't have ICS, despite having HTC assur…

* Most Nexus devices do.

Google no longer supports old hardware to a certain extent. I had to upgrade phones from a Nexus One because they wouldn't be pushing ICS to it. I'm guessing that this will be the case eventually with tablets.

I particularly only purchase Nexus branded devices because of the support for the most current OS from Google.

(Just noticed you said 'for at least a couple of years')

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by earl »

MartinCron wrote: post #55
earl wrote: post #49

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I don't think google can compete with the ipad. The ipad is priced competitively, and the question every similar tablet has to answer is why on earth would I pay as much for this as I would for an ipad? There doesn't appear to be any good answers. The android tablet manufacturers don't appear to able to compete on price with a similar hardware quality. edit: I meant compete directly. Obviously they can make something…

The Google tablet is half the price of an iPad. If that's not competing on price, I don't know what is.

it's also crap compared to the ipad. Smaller, lower resolution screen. Less storage. No ability to directly access wireless networks. Crappier apps. Fewer apps. Crappy entertainment ecosystem compared to itunes. Most likely Google will dick you on OS updates just like the nexus phone that waited months and months. No genius bar to send your mom to. etc etc etc.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by J3L2404 »

jamesaguilar wrote: post #35
btipling wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tablets are expensive. I cannot afford to buy a tablet every year. So I want a tablet that is future proof. The 10 inch tablets that others will release this year will have an outdated operating system on them and will still cost many hundreds of dollars. I do not want to spend hundreds of dollars on an outdated operating system. I love Android, but this terrible to the extreme.

I love that people accuse Apple of planned obsolescence in the phone market when Google releases operating systems that don't even work on devices that came out in the current year.

Yeah, but theirs is unplanned obsolescence.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by lbotos »

I haven't been following much of android development but is it starting to look like WP7? I only say this because both of the screenshots on the page look very very much inspired by WP7.

https://lh3.ggpht.com/3Pu3EHP1QUr9oI-YdIPQE5BxWYVGZ_DzPwhReS... - Metro-esque

https://lh4.ggpht.com/p-eZmyce7_T2-_eOwltQxU6glPj6f53kDXvDvN... - Big airy sans, open spaces, riding the line of minimalist, etc.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by fluidcruft »

_ea1k wrote: post #30
btipling wrote: post #5

It ships with Jellybean... I've been waiting for the Samsung 10 inch tablet with the stylus, but it's already out of date and hasn't even shipped yet. I don't want a 7inch tablet and it is going to be years by the time a Jelly Bean 10 inch tablet comes out and by that time there will already be a new version of the OS! I already have a Fire and I can't read magazines on it, it's too small. I'm just going to give up a…

I don't think it will take "years" for a Jelly Bean 10 inch tablet.

Particularly since the OTA to Xoom is sometime mid-July.

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by SwellJoe »

anigbrowl wrote: post #66
SwellJoe wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nexus branded devices do get the OS updates in a timely manner. It's part of the Google Nexus experience. This is actually one of the reasons Google keeps putting out devices...to keep their OEMs honest and moving forward. It isn't working as well as I'd like (my HTC Sensation 4G which I bought on short notice to replace my Nexus One, which broke while I was traveling, still doesn't have ICS, despite having HTC assur…

cough Nexus One cough

I loved my Nexus One, and it was always on top of the latest official Android releases for about three years (and, if you wanted to root it, there's still good community support for it).

Re: Nexus 7, Made for Google Play

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Post by dt7 »

al_james wrote: post #59
dt7 wrote: post #7

£159/£199 in the UK... very reasonable I think, compared to the current prices of Android tablets in the UK.

Yes, nice to see there is not a huge mark-up for the UK prices. $199 is £127 + 20% tax = £152... Close enough.

If only they could get some form of deal to bring TV content over. I don't think there's any way to pay to watch Season 4 of Breaking Bad in the UK.
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