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SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Starbase, TX is rapidly overtaking Cape Canaveral, FL. This "extended work opportunity" of sorts is being milked for maximum instrumental utility.

I thought Starbase was more for experimental launches. I don't follow every launch of SpaceX but the one's I saw where mostly of test vehicles.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Man the reporting on this ordeal has been so awful and so representative of how media misleads the public into thinking things are worse than they actually are. It isn't a rescue mission, it's a regular crew rotation mission with modifications to account for the extra crew left on the station, and those crew are 'stuck' only in the sense that they're expected to stay there as part of their duties and it would be unne…

I guess I'm a victim of this reporting to some extent, because I remember this situation going on for months, and I keep thinking every time it's mentioned (often) how terrible it must be for these astronauts and why something isn't done about it. But I know almost nothing regarding details. I know I despise Boeing and that I admire astronauts and that reading this headline, I thought 'its about fucking time!' But if…

> I guess I'm a victim of this reporting to some extent, because I remember this situation going on for months, and I keep thinking every time it's mentioned (often) how terrible it must be for these astronauts and why something isn't done about it.

I'm not Butch or Suni, but I think the astronauts most negatively affected by this would be the two that got bumped from Crew 9. Astronauts define their careers by the amount and quality of the time they are blessed to spend in space. Chris Hadfield, e.g., has taken it for granted that the pair would feel lucky to be "stranded" for a few months, and would have plenty of meaningful work to occupy their time.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Kinda is, and it’s all Elon’s fault.

> Kinda is, and it’s all Elon’s fault. Not sure what you mean by that. Are you suggesting that Elon/SpaceX sabotaged Boeing Starliner program? Because it seems pretty obvious that Boeing did that all on their own.

I mean to give Elon credit for being able to deliver a viable program where nobody else can.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Well, that was probably Boeing's line for the MAX disasters, until the second one occurred. Boeing is clearly undergoing systemic collapse in engineering ability, so anything Boeing has to be treated with extreme suspicion. Its like hiring a 3-time-felon to babysit, like you can do it, but there will be 0 tolerance for any deviance.

They build a plane with 15M parts every single day. Their worst engineer is better than 99% of those on HN.

Their worst engineers are the ones responsible for shipping planes + systems that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people.

I don't think I'm a fantastic engineer, but I'm certainly doing better than those people when considering the metric of "how many people has my software killed".

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Well, that was probably Boeing's line for the MAX disasters, until the second one occurred. Boeing is clearly undergoing systemic collapse in engineering ability, so anything Boeing has to be treated with extreme suspicion. Its like hiring a 3-time-felon to babysit, like you can do it, but there will be 0 tolerance for any deviance.

They build a plane with 15M parts every single day. Their worst engineer is better than 99% of those on HN.

These are big words.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Russian roulette is safe! I played once and didn't die!

The point that half this comment section is missing is this is the sort of thing we want to encourage. The US spent extra money funding two separate vendors. One vendor exhibited a high level of risk in their first return. The astronauts were able to be returned on the second, already proven vendor. That's a great place to be in! The alternative, having to return astronauts on a high risk vehicle because it's the onl…

What is not great is the fact that vendor 1 exhibited a string of concerning anomalies and accidents. Vendor 1 may be institutionally unfit to be a leg on which the US space program stands.

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The real problem is that the company doing the rescue is SpaceX, and that's owned by Elon. And HN does not like Elon.

Yes, the comments are a reflection of that. What a level of moral twisting

It's become the normal way of thinking here on HN. Everyone is so deep inside a box that they can't even see the edges. They're brainwashed with cult behavior.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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I agree that calling it a rescue is a bit much, but this is hardly a case of missing a bus or ferry and catching the next one. If you missed a ferry, expecting to be away from your family for a week, only to find you are stuck on a desolate island for 8+ months you would probably feel like you were being rescued.

My understanding is the astronauts don’t mind staying longer because they enjoy it and for some (all?) it may be their last mission in space, in part due to the decommissioning.

We don't really know. Some of them may have missed out on something personally important back on Earth (graduation, wedding, funeral, birth) etc.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Was the title edited after the fact by mods? The original title has the word "rescue." The top comment is questioning the use of this word. It seems likely that when the story originally appeared on HN, it had the accurate title reflecting the title of the article. Thus the comment from dotnet00, which I'm neutral on. But then, it would appear, the title was altered, to dampen a controversy? Is this how things are do…

It was definitely changed.

Re: SpaceX launches mission for 2 NASA astronauts who are stuck on the ISS

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Man the reporting on this ordeal has been so awful and so representative of how media misleads the public into thinking things are worse than they actually are. It isn't a rescue mission, it's a regular crew rotation mission with modifications to account for the extra crew left on the station, and those crew are 'stuck' only in the sense that they're expected to stay there as part of their duties and it would be unne…

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