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Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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speaking from experience creativity is a condition and or compulsion often associated with basic functional deficits can it be channeled,directed,optimised,and comodified? sometimes for a while

Yes! And it would be super useful if the rest of the population could benefit from insights extracted from "them". Currently humanity operates on creativity and other forms of knowledge work. There is a lot of value in "better creativity" or "more exploitable creativity".

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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Sure, but so can pure randomness, for the same reason. It is creative in the literal sense, but not in the ineffable sense that humans tend to describe in humans.

You're absolutely right - and to identify the creation within randomness is also a form of creativity. Not all humans create (and identify) with the same methodologies!

In hindsight, I wish I’d included the disclaimer that I have creative pursuits (of the ineffable variety) which leverage creative tools in the more literal sense (not AI, not purely random either). I don’t mean to disparage the entire class of machine-generated creation per se.

But I do think that there is an important distinction between incorporating it in some form into a person’s expression, versus being the whole of the expression. Even if that incorporation is mere curation, at least that imbues some semblance of meaning, to someone capable of experiencing meaning.

And perhaps that’s a snobbish perspective. Maybe it deserves reexamination.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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post #54

I think anyone that has undertaken an art form of any sort knows that it is all down to practice. There's just different levels of dedication. Charlie Parker famously was thrown out of a jam session in Kansas City as a teenager by Jo Jones (who threw a cymbal at him), and decided to spend the next 3-4 years practicing 12-15 hours per day. There's a retreat called chilla [1] that some South Asian musicians do which is…

A teacher might tell you "it's about brush mileage - and I have now told you all that matters". Dump that teacher. If it's all they could teach you, you are done with them.

Oh for sure, there's a difference between just putting in time and putting in effective time.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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post #36

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guilty as charged ! But Bohm's "On Creativity", to me presents a much deeper "philosophical" take on a) what is creativity and b) how to foster it. And I dont see it referenced in this text at all. Again, since this is about persuation, it is what the reader wants to believe.

There are (probably) several billion works on creativity. Just reading and listing your own sources of inspiration on creativity is quite the endheavor. And that is not going to be exhaustive even in a PhD thesis. I'll give leaway there - on the contrary, mine THEIR list for stuff I missed.

fair take, but my view these days is the following.

there is way too much information-garbage floating around.

hence I try to stick to time-tested classics particularly when it comes to certain topics. now, your time-tested classic may be different from mine and certainly, i want to see if there are things I missed, and hence I mentioned Bohm's work, as something the author of this PhD missed.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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While deliberate practice is undoubtedly crucial for developing creativity and expertise, I think there's an important nuance we often overlook - the role of diverse experiences and cross-pollination of ideas. Deliberate practice helps refine skills and deepen domain knowledge, but breakthrough creativity often comes from making unexpected connections between disparate fields. Some of history's most creative figures…

This is why AI can in fact create things that haven’t yet been.

I must not be using the right models because this is exactly what AI can not currently do IMO.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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Creativity comes from focusing on small piece of deliberate practice...

An example, ask any well known guitar player....their greatest rift came from practicing some chord progression and noticing something different about it...the rift from Sweet Child was discovered that way....

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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> Elite level performers use deliberate practice and credit hard work to their success instead of talent.

> Mediocre performers don't use deliberate practice and credit talent to their success.

The author then implies that deliberate practice and hard work are the key to success. But it could also be the case that elite level performers _are_ talented and they achieve success by exploiting that talent through hard work, while mediocre performers wouldn't achieve the same level of success even if they worked as hard.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't respond to the comment above, b/c it's already been flagged, but I just wanted to say that I was surprised with the quality of the output as well. I know it's not magic. I know it's not sentient. I know it's not perfect. BUT IT'S IMPRESSIVE, and things like this demonstrate the huge leap that has happened in computing possibilities, and I'm frustrated that it gets flagged because some people are triggered by…

Why did it get flagged? Is it not allowed to post links in comments? Or drive links specifically?

"Here's what an LLM thinks about this" is not useful commentary, it's just white noise
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