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Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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I think anyone that has undertaken an art form of any sort knows that it is all down to practice. There's just different levels of dedication. Charlie Parker famously was thrown out of a jam session in Kansas City as a teenager by Jo Jones (who threw a cymbal at him), and decided to spend the next 3-4 years practicing 12-15 hours per day. There's a retreat called chilla [1] that some South Asian musicians do which is 40 days of isolation and intensive practice. I saw a video of Mike Tyson helping train a young boxer recently and at the beginning he says: "You know, it has nothing to do with styles or size. It's all about the moral of the fighter. How important is it to you? Is it more important than breathing? Is it more important than eating? It's up to the individual."

A great mentor is crucial too. I know for myself having my music teacher listen and force me to not move on from what I'm working on is necessary. Having my Muay Thai trainer throw down his pads and silently demonstrate what I need to embody is invaluable. My meditation teacher pointing out my misunderstandings. Etc.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilla_katna

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmJJK7Ac4Fk&t=20s

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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While deliberate practice is undoubtedly crucial for developing creativity and expertise, I think there's an important nuance we often overlook - the role of diverse experiences and cross-pollination of ideas. Deliberate practice helps refine skills and deepen domain knowledge, but breakthrough creativity often comes from making unexpected connections between disparate fields. Some of history's most creative figures…

This is why AI can in fact create things that haven’t yet been.

Sure, but so can pure randomness, for the same reason. It is creative in the literal sense, but not in the ineffable sense that humans tend to describe in humans.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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post #4

While deliberate practice is undoubtedly crucial for developing creativity and expertise, I think there's an important nuance we often overlook - the role of diverse experiences and cross-pollination of ideas. Deliberate practice helps refine skills and deepen domain knowledge, but breakthrough creativity often comes from making unexpected connections between disparate fields. Some of history's most creative figures…

This! Most of my creativity in private projects stems from having build a broad space of knowledge/experiences. Having tinkered with a lot of different disconnected things really helps me find interesting bits to combine in a new and creative way that I never had imagined before :)

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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Speaking as a creative monster, I never practiced. I learned to draw by drawing, program by programming etc. Always because I was into it. Never because I was into a dream of future mastery.

Practice on the job is still practice, no?

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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I didn't downvote that comment when you commented, but I did it now.

I don't come to HN to read the auto-generated output of a system. If I wanted that I could generate the result myself. I come to HN because I'm interested in what people in the community have to say.

Showing up to a thread and saying "this is what an LLM generated" does not "gratify my intellectual curiosity" (per the FAQ) and, in my opinion, is not a practice to be encouraged.

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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This is why AI can in fact create things that haven’t yet been.

Sure, but so can pure randomness, for the same reason. It is creative in the literal sense, but not in the ineffable sense that humans tend to describe in humans.

You're absolutely right - and to identify the creation within randomness is also a form of creativity. Not all humans create (and identify) with the same methodologies!

Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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While deliberate practice is undoubtedly crucial for developing creativity and expertise, I think there's an important nuance we often overlook - the role of diverse experiences and cross-pollination of ideas. Deliberate practice helps refine skills and deepen domain knowledge, but breakthrough creativity often comes from making unexpected connections between disparate fields. Some of history's most creative figures…

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Re: Role of Deliberate Practice in the Development of Creativity (2014)

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I think anyone that has undertaken an art form of any sort knows that it is all down to practice. There's just different levels of dedication. Charlie Parker famously was thrown out of a jam session in Kansas City as a teenager by Jo Jones (who threw a cymbal at him), and decided to spend the next 3-4 years practicing 12-15 hours per day. There's a retreat called chilla [1] that some South Asian musicians do which is…

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