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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by cubefox »

havefunbesafe wrote: post #741
cubefox wrote: post #250

I'm not tired, I'm afraid. First, I'm afraid of technological unemployment. In the past, automation meant that workers could move into non-automated jobs, if they were skilled enough. But superhuman AI seems now only few years away. It will be our last invention, it will mean total automation. There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. Many countries will likely move away from a job-based market…

Ironically, this feels like a comment written by AI

That's not ironic, it's embarrassing that you can't tell the difference.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by bschmidt1 »

low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

Oh please the content online now is so fake as hell. You're acting as if AI can only produce garbage but CNN and Fox News are producing gold. The internet is 4 total websites now, congrats big media won. And you want to shut down the only decent attempt against it. Shame on you "hackers"

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by bschmidt1 »

Animats wrote: post #666

I'm tired of LLMs. Enough billions of dollars have been spent on LLMs that a reasonably good picture of what they can and can't do has emerged. They're really good at some things, terrible at others, and prone to doing something totally wrong some fraction of the time. That last limits their usefulness. They can't safely be in charge of anything important. If someone doesn't soon figure out how to get a confidence me…

I love how people are like "there's no use case" and there's already products on shelves. I see AI art everywhere, AI writing, customer support - already happened. You guys are naysaying something that already happened people already replaced jobs with LLMs and already profit due to AI. There are already startups with users where you provide a OPENAI_API_KEY, or customers where you provide theirs.

If you can't see how this tech is useful Idk what to tell you, you have no imagination AND aren't looking around you at the products, marketing, etc. that already exists. These takes remind me of the luddites of ~2012 who were still doubting the Internet in general.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by __loam »

illiac786 wrote: post #695
__loam wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily enough, bitcoin mining still uses at least about 3x more power that AI at the moment, while providing less value imo. AI power use is also dwarfed by other industries even in computing. We should still consider whether it's worth it, but most research and development on LLMs in corporate right now seems to be focused on making them more efficient, and therefore both cheaper and less power intensive, to run. T…

Do you have a nice reference for this? I could really use something like this, this topic comes up a lot in my social circle.

https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2024/08/18/is-ai-eating-all-th...

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by cubefox »

leptons wrote: post #661
cubefox wrote: post #250

I'm not tired, I'm afraid. First, I'm afraid of technological unemployment. In the past, automation meant that workers could move into non-automated jobs, if they were skilled enough. But superhuman AI seems now only few years away. It will be our last invention, it will mean total automation. There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. Many countries will likely move away from a job-based market…

China's economy would simply crash if they ever went to war with the US. They know this. Everyone knows this, except maybe you? China has nothing to gain by going to "hot" war with the US.

The war would be about world domination. There can at most one such country. The same reason why a nuclear war between US and SU could have happened.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by Spivak »

canxerian wrote: post #749

I'm a software dev and I'm tired of LLMs being crowbar'd in to every single product I build and use, to the point where they are unanimously and unequivocally used over better, cheaper and simpler solutions. I'm also tired of people who claim to be excited by AI. They are the dullest of them all.

And so the counterculture begins angst angst angst! Let's find an empty rooftop, I'll take a long drag off my vape, a swig of my forty, and you can talk about how all those people down there using AI just don't get it mannnnn. How the big corporations are lying to them and convincing them to buy API credits they don't even need!

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by tonymet »

Assuming that people tend to pursue the expedient and convenient solution, AI will degrade science and art until only a facsimile of outdated creativity is left.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by smeeger »

9dev wrote: post #717
cubefox wrote: post #412

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advanced AI will solve robotics as well, and do away with human physical labor.

If that AI is worth more than a dime, it will recognise how incredibly efficient humans are in physical labor, and employ them instead of ”doing away“ with it (whatever that’s even supposed to mean.) No matter how much you ”solve“ robotics, you’re not going to compete with the result of millions of years of brutal natural selection, the incredible layering of synergies in organisms, the efficiency of the biomass to e…

wrong. a human needs to have insane resources to operate. each human needs a home, clean water, delicious and varied foods and a sense of identity and a society to be a part of. they need a sense of purpose. if a human goes down in the field, it has to be medically treated or else the other humans will throw up and stop working. that human has to be treated in a hospital. if these conditions arent met then performance will degrade rapidly. humans use vastly more resources than robots. robots will crush humans.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by smeeger »

amelius wrote: post #683
9dev wrote: post #401

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> There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. A highly white-collar perspective. The great irony of technologist-led industrial revolution is that we set out to automate the mundane, physical labor, but instead cannibalised the creative jobs first. It's a wonderful example of Conway's law, as the creators modelled the solution after themselves. However, even with a lot of programmers and lawyers…

AI is doing all the fun jobs such as painting and writing. The crappy jobs are left for humans.

do you know how ignorant and rude this comment is?

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by User23 »

zaptheimpaler wrote: post #779
TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #478

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Google didn't change it, it embodied it. The problem isn't AI, it's the pervasive culture of PR and advertising which appeared in the 50s and eventually consumed its host. Western industrial culture was based on substance - getting real shit done. There was always a lot of scammery around it, but the bedrock goal was to make physical things happen - build things, invent things, deliver things, innovate. PR and ad cul…

Just yesterday I watched a video blaming China for "oversupplying" electric cars at low prices and how that was hurting car manufacturers elsewhere e.g Germany. These manufacturers were trying to secretly lobby for tariffs to be placed on Chinese cars, while publicly denying this because THEIR largest and growing market was China. They had some "expert" talk about how China is known to oversupply and is doing this to…

I agree with you, but it’s really simpler than that. China makes things and the west increasingly just sends emails.
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