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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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I'm not tired, I'm afraid. First, I'm afraid of technological unemployment. In the past, automation meant that workers could move into non-automated jobs, if they were skilled enough. But superhuman AI seems now only few years away. It will be our last invention, it will mean total automation. There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. Many countries will likely move away from a job-based market…

Ironically, this feels like a comment written by AI

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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My last job made me shill for AI stuff because GPUs have a lot of income potential. One of my next ones is going to make me shill for AI stuff because it makes people deal with terrifying amounts of data.

I understand why this is the case, but it's still kinda disappointing. I'm hoping for an AI winter so that I can talk about normal uses of computers again.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Agreed, I feel like there's an inherent nobility in putting effort into something. If I took the time to write a book and have it proof-read and edited and so on: perhaps it's actually worth my time. Lowering the bar to write books is "good" but increases the noise to signal ratio. I'm not 100% certain how to give another proof-of-work, but what I've started doing is narrating my blog posts - though AI voices are get…

> Agreed, I feel like there's an inherent nobility in putting effort into something. If I took the time to write a book and have it proof-read and edited and so on: perhaps it's actually worth my time. Said the scribe upon hearing about the printing press.

It's true though. Books hand written and illustrated by scribes were astronomically higher quality than mass printed books. People just tend to prefer what they have access to, and cheap/low quality is easy to access.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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On point article, and I'm sure it represents a common sentiment, even if it's an undercurrent to the hype machine ideology. It is quite hard to find a place which works on AI solutions where a sincere, sober gaze would find anything resembling the benefits promised to users and society more broadly. On the "top level" the underlying hope is that a paradigm shift for the good will happen in society, if we only let col…

Very well said.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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My worry is what happens once large segments of the population become unemployable.

You should really have a look at Marx. He literally predicted what will happen when we reach the state of "let machines do all work", and also how this is exactly the way that finally implodes capitalism as a concept. The major problem is he believed the industrial revolution will automate everything to such an extend, which it didn't, but here we are with a reasonable chance that AI will do the trick finally.

It may implode capitalism as a concept, but the people who most benefit from it and hold the levers of power will also have their egos implode, which they cannot stand. Like even Altman has talked about UBI and a world of prosperity for all (although his latest puff piece says we just can't conceive of the jobs we'll have but w/e), but anyone who's "ruling" the current world is going to be the least prepared for a world of abundance and happiness for all where money is meaningless. They won't walk joyfully into the utopia they pandered in yesteryear, they'll try to prop up a system that positions them as superior to everyone else, and if it means the world goes to hell, so be it.

(I mean, there was that one study that used a chatbot to deradicalize people, but when you're the one in power, your mental pathologies are viewed as virtues, so good luck trying to change them as people.)

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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What kind of silliness is this? AI generated crap is one thing. But human generated crap is there - just because human wrote something it is not making it good. Had a friend who thought that if it is written in a book it is for sure true. Well NO! There was exactly the same sentiment with stuff on the internet and it is still the same sentiment about Wikipedia that “it is just some kids writing bs, get a paper book o…

No one claimed humans are perfect. But gen AI is a force multiplier for every problem we had to deal with. It's just completely different scale. Your brain is about to be DDOSed by junk content. Of course, gen AI is just a tool that can be used for good or bad, but spam, targeted misinformation campaigns, and garbage content in general is one area that will be most amplified because it became so low effort and they d…

What's with the fud

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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I'm not tired, I'm afraid. First, I'm afraid of technological unemployment. In the past, automation meant that workers could move into non-automated jobs, if they were skilled enough. But superhuman AI seems now only few years away. It will be our last invention, it will mean total automation. There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. Many countries will likely move away from a job-based market…

> There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. A highly white-collar perspective. The great irony of technologist-led industrial revolution is that we set out to automate the mundane, physical labor, but instead cannibalised the creative jobs first. It's a wonderful example of Conway's law, as the creators modelled the solution after themselves. However, even with a lot of programmers and lawyers…

I'm glad I spent 10 years working to become a better programmer so I could eventually become a ditch digger.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

#748

What I'm really tired of is people completely misrepresenting the Luddites as if they were simply anti-progress or anti-technology cult or whatever and nothing else. Kinda hilariously sad that the propaganda of the time managed to win over the genuine concerns that Luddites had about inhumane working environments & conditions. It's very telling that the rabid AI sycophants are painting anyone who has doubts about the…

Thankfully, even here I've seen more faithful discussion of the Luddites and more people are willing to bring up their actual history whenever some questionably-uninformed techbro here uses the typical pejorative insult.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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I'm a software dev and I'm tired of LLMs being crowbar'd in to every single product I build and use, to the point where they are unanimously and unequivocally used over better, cheaper and simpler solutions.

I'm also tired of people who claim to be excited by AI. They are the dullest of them all.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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>The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die Do you think AI has changed that in any way? I remember the sea of excrement overtaking genuine human written content on the Internet around mid 2010s. It is around that time when Google stopped pretending they are a search company and focused on their pr…

Google didn't change it, it embodied it. The problem isn't AI, it's the pervasive culture of PR and advertising which appeared in the 50s and eventually consumed its host. Western industrial culture was based on substance - getting real shit done. There was always a lot of scammery around it, but the bedrock goal was to make physical things happen - build things, invent things, deliver things, innovate. PR and ad cul…

this is a top notch comment !
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