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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by edavison1 »

goatlover wrote: post #571
DrillShopper wrote: post #508

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It doesn't matter how elite you think you are if the newspaper, magazine, or publishing company you write for can make more money from hiring people at a fraction of your cost and having them use AI to match or eclipse your professional output. At some point the competition will be less about "does this look like the most skilled human writer wrote this?" and more about "did the AI guided by a human for a fraction of…

So you're saying major media companies are going to outsource their writing to people overseas using LLMs? There is more to journalism than the writing. There's also the investigative part where journalists go and talk to people, look into old records, etc.

This has become such a talking point of mine when I'm inevitably forced to explain why LLMs can't come for my job (yet). People seem baffled by the idea that reporting collects novel information about the world which hasn't been indexed/ingested at any point because it didn't exist before I did the interview or whatever it is.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by johnchristopher »

tempfile wrote: post #123
johnchristopher wrote: post #97

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> Capitalism started by putting up fences around land to kick people out and keep sheep in. That's factually wrong. Capitalism is about moving wealth more efficiently: easier to allocate money/wealth to X through the banking system than to move sheep/wealth to X's farm.

capitalism and "money as an abstract concept" are unrelated.

Neither is the relevance of your comment about it and yet here we are.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by beefnugs »

low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

Just add more swearing and off color jokes to everything you do and say. If there is one thing we know for sure its that the corporate AIs will never allow dirty jokes.

(it will get into the dark places like spam though, which seems dumb since they know how to make meth instead, spend time on that you wankers)

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by littlestymaar »

drstewart wrote: post #454
littlestymaar wrote: post #236

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> but capitalism has done more to lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty over the past 50 years than any other religion, aid programme or whatever else. Technology did what you ascribe to Capitalism. Most of the time thanks to state intervention, and the weaker the state, the weaker the growth (see how Asia overperformed everybody else now that laissez-faire policies are mainstream in the West). > Talk to…

Funny how it's technology that outmaneuvered capitalism to lift people out of poverty, but technology is being outmaneuvered by capitalism to endanger the future with AI. Methinks capitalism is just a bogeyman you ascribe anything you don't like to.

Technology is agnostic to who gets the benefits, talking about outmaneuvering it makes no sense.

Capitalism on the other hand is the mechanism through which the owners of production assets grab an ever growing fractions of the value. When Capitalism is tamed by the state (think from the New Deal to Carter), the people get a bigger share of value created, when it's not (since Reagan) Capitalists take the Lion share.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by [deleted] »

beefnugs wrote: post #593
low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

Just add more swearing and off color jokes to everything you do and say. If there is one thing we know for sure its that the corporate AIs will never allow dirty jokes. (it will get into the dark places like spam though, which seems dumb since they know how to make meth instead, spend time on that you wankers)

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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by rasulkireev »

ookdatnog wrote: post #162
nicce wrote: post #91

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In the past, you had to put a lot of effort to produce a text which seemed to be high quality, especially when you knew nothing about the subject. By the look of text and the usage of the words, you could tell how professional the writer was and you had some confidence that the writer knew something about the subject. Now, that is completely removed. There is no easy filter anymore. While the professional looking tex…

Writing a text of decent quality used to constitute proof of work. This is now no longer the case, and we haven't adapted to this assumption becoming invalid. For example, when applying to a job, your cover letter used to count as proof of work. The contents are less important than the fact that you put some amount of effort in it, enough to prove that you care about this specific vacancy. Now this basic assumption h…

Great opportunity to get ahead of all the lazy people who use AI for a cover letter. Do a video! Sure, AI will be able to do that soon, but then we (not lazy people, who care) will come up with something even more personal!

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by FrustratedMonky »

low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

Maybe this will push people back to reading old paper books?

There could be resurgence in reading the classics, on paper, since we know they are not AI.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by goatlover »

fennecfoxy wrote: post #511
low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

Why does a human being behind any words change anything at all? Trust should be based on established facts/research and not species.

An LLM isn't even a species. I prefer communicating with other humans, unless I choose to interact with an LLM. But then I know that it's a text generator and not a person, even when I ask it to act like a person. The difference matters to most humans.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by goatlover »

DrillShopper wrote: post #509
_heimdall wrote: post #461

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> Now, I'm not going to criticize anyone that does it, like I said, you have to, that's it. Why do you say people have to do it? People absolutely can choose not to use LLMs and to instead write their own words and thoughts, just like developers can simply refuse to build LLM tools, whether its because they have safety concerns or because they simply see "AI" in its current state as a doomed marketing play that is no…

> Why do you say people have to do it? Gotta eat, yo

Somehow people made enough to eat before LLMs became all the rage a couple years ago. I suspect people are still making enough to eat without having to use LLMs.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by 9dev »

janice1999 wrote: post #575
9dev wrote: post #542

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The idea that robots displace workers has been around for more than half a century, but nothing has ever come out of it. As it turns out, the problems a robot faces when, say laying bricks, are prohibitively complex to solve. A human bricklayer is better in every single dimension. And even if you manage to build an extremely sophisticated robot bricklayer, it will consume vast amounts of energy, is not repairable by…

> but nothing has ever come out of it Have you ever seen the inside of a modern car factory?

A factory is a fully controlled environment. All that neat control goes down the drain when you’re confronted with the outside world—weather, wind, animals, plants, pollen, rubbish, teenagers, dust, daylight, and a myriad of other factors ruining your robot's day.
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