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Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by MaxikCZ »

beretguy wrote: post #93
MaxikCZ wrote: post #16

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I needed to send categorized and annotated batch of pictures (150MB) to a client, and for some reason I decided to drop the pics into excel sheet (allowing me to nicely support them with data etc). The client complained that they use web version of office 360, and that version doesnt allow to open excel files bigger than 100MB. I cant even.

… finish a sentence.

Thats like asking someone to not write "lol" when they can write "laughed out loud". Get on with the times, old man.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by [deleted] »

smolder wrote: post #119
oarsinsync wrote: post #30

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How would you suggest splitting up a heavily vertically integrated company, like eg Apple? Does Google search become a paid subscription product in your vision of separation of search vs ads?

Apple TV can be separate, as can their music stuff. Other than that I'm not sure.

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Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by sub7 »

I have a hotmail account from the 90s and they've made it impossible to use not-Outlook clients to authenticate with IMAP servers - calling it a "bug" that's being "worked on" (for over a year now apparently)

Basically trying to push you to paid Exchange/Office365 subscriptions.

The more aggro these big tech cos are trying to move you from buying great products to paying for overpriced subscriptions, the closer we get to them trading at their historical PEs (down ~50% from today)

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by emeril »

dax_ wrote: post #37
Neil44 wrote: post #18

They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.

I will keep using "classic" for as long as possible. This trend to turn everything into painfully slow web apps is really getting on my nerves. As an example, I use quick steps very frequently to categorize emails. In classic Outlook, I click the button and the email is moved immediately - in the new Outlook it has a ~1 second delay until the email is moved and I can move the next one. Takes so long to get through my…

I've been using outlook 2010 for 15 years (+ and old license of "lookeen")

it seems to be the least bad version I've encountered for an exchange client that seems compatible with modern exchange

if I had super modern exchange and had to use the latest desktop client, I'd probably just use the webclient at this point as it's probably better

ultimately, I'd take gmail over any incarnation of MS mail apps these days (including outlook 2010)

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by Tempest1981 »

Const-me wrote: post #95
Tempest1981 wrote: post #48

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In classic Outlook, I really hate the animated lagging cursor when composing. Seems like it can't be disabled any more? (Same with Excel) Maybe this is to prepare us for slower new Outlook?

> Seems like it can't be disabled any more? Try that checkbox: https://www.howtogeek.com/742678/how-to-turn-off-animations-...

Thanks much! It was making me sea-sick.

Didn't know it moved from Office settings to Windows settings! Although now my Start menu animation is lost... I hate these tradeoffs.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by Const-me »

Tempest1981 wrote: post #126
Const-me wrote: post #95

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> Seems like it can't be disabled any more? Try that checkbox: https://www.howtogeek.com/742678/how-to-turn-off-animations-...

Thanks much! It was making me sea-sick. Didn't know it moved from Office settings to Windows settings! Although now my Start menu animation is lost... I hate these tradeoffs.

I discovered that setting after building a new desktop PC recently. It was disappointing to find the awful keyboard lag introduced by the new OS, as I use MS Office daily.

About start menu animations, I actually prefer the UX without them. I press the Win key and the menu appears, no need to wait.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by lostmsu »

redbell wrote: post #90
skrebbel wrote: post #35

The worst thing about this, to me, is that Windows Mail client, the one they're discontinuing, is a fantastic piece of software. It's simple, lean, capable, and elegantly designed. It's perfect for a novice computer user to check their email on. The new cloud thing is worse in every way. It confusingly copies your email over from your email provider's servers onto Microsoft's servers, and then shows an ad that looks…

> In other words, it injects spam, but the spam is special because you can't delete it. During this week, I had a client approached me to build him a Spam Reporter Outlook add-in. He wanted the add-in to be cross-platform (Windows, macOS and Web). I started working on the project by creating a new project in Visual Studio 2022 and choosing Outlook Web Add-in as a template. Once the new project was created and ready,…

Sounds like you might have viruses TBH

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by lostmsu »

ajdude wrote: post #116
tcfhgj wrote: post #98

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checkout WinoMail, more or less a open source clone of Windows Mail: https://github.com/bkaankose/Wino-Mail

I wish I knew about this when I set up my grandmother's new computer earlier this year. She has gotten used to using windows mail and I had to explain to her how to tell the difference between her own emails and ads that look exactly like her own emails.

I would say it is too buggy at this point for regular users

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Post by beretguy »

MaxikCZ wrote: post #121
beretguy wrote: post #93

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… finish a sentence.

Thats like asking someone to not write "lol" when they can write "laughed out loud". Get on with the times, old man.

Do you enjoy insulting people? It was meant up be a joke.
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