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Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#101
So now Outlook users' emails have two points to leak from? And we all know how good MS' security is.

> ... Co-pilot ...

Make that three. And beware:

> The offloading ... removes the ability for security engineers or researchers to easily inspect what the client is doing

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#102

Break them up. We need revised antitrust laws.

Yes please, the whole world would be a better place if US antitrust laws would be updated for realities of the modern world

Saying this as a European who has no say in the US system but definitely feels it’s international influence

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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post #32
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Outlook new is missing one fundamental feature which is automation. This blob of html can not be programmed unlike predecessors for more 15 years. It is so easy to instantiate and use old outlook that I really fail to understand what is their endgame with this killing of a top and well respected product.

I think the article has it correct, its their way of forcing all users to have their emails stored and scraped by Microsoft, no matter the provider.

Need more free training data!

The most annoying part is the times outlook automatically updated to new outlook, of which I was not notified and could not decline. I guess it vacuumed up all my email data those times, even though I “reverted” to legacy outlook

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#105
post #34

So like IMAP?

Like IMAP, except Microsoft downloads and stores all your folders on their servers, even if your email provider is not Microsoft.

Okay, so this happens not only for MS mail accounts, thanks for this! I probably could not even imagine that they are basically copying private data to their servers!

I don’t understand why people are still using their products, I am using Linux since many years and see no problem at all with that. Plus Apple for phone, but not sure about their privacy promises…

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#106

The worst thing about this, to me, is that Windows Mail client, the one they're discontinuing, is a fantastic piece of software. It's simple, lean, capable, and elegantly designed. It's perfect for a novice computer user to check their email on. The new cloud thing is worse in every way. It confusingly copies your email over from your email provider's servers onto Microsoft's servers, and then shows an ad that looks…

That time never existed, there were plenty of subgroups inside Microsoft that wanted to make useful software. Plenty of people still in there that do. But it's never been a general policicy of Microsoft that turned into actual culture and actions. Because that would require a general vision in that direction, which would imply we would never have one version out of two of Windows (Me, Vista, 8, 11...) that looks like…

>Word would not destroy your layout because you move an image on pixel on the left

I swear every time someone tells me that LibreOfficie is simply not up to standard, I think of how much more sane its handling of floating tables and images is. Also,

>AoE 2

A company they killed to make the next monthly report of Xbox look nicer.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#107
post #75

Its maddening how software doesn't benefit anymore from fast local storage. We have massive inexpensive SSD's sitting empty whilst you wait for a tiny PDF to download.

And when we finally have huge data pipes to our homes and offices.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#108
post #98

The worst thing about this, to me, is that Windows Mail client, the one they're discontinuing, is a fantastic piece of software. It's simple, lean, capable, and elegantly designed. It's perfect for a novice computer user to check their email on. The new cloud thing is worse in every way. It confusingly copies your email over from your email provider's servers onto Microsoft's servers, and then shows an ad that looks…

checkout WinoMail, more or less a open source clone of Windows Mail: https://github.com/bkaankose/Wino-Mail

wow that looks amazing, thanks!

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#109
Yet another example of why I won't take a consulting job without written permission to upload data to Microsoft's cloud. The client will expect you to use Windows but they want you to promise that you won't share their data with anyone. There's no way to promise "local only" anything if you're using Windows.
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