Meanwhile, Thunderbird is rolling out MS Exchange capability by v130 (which I am hoping must be very soon)
Thunderbird will support EWS, which if you use a cloud based Exchange account will be unavailable in 2026.
Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
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Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#92Folks, don't complain. You wanted the cloud, you're getting the cloud.
This is my first time hearing we wanted the cloud.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#93are we just waiting for excel to exhibit this behavior shortly?
I needed to send categorized and annotated batch of pictures (150MB) to a client, and for some reason I decided to drop the pics into excel sheet (allowing me to nicely support them with data etc). The client complained that they use web version of office 360, and that version doesnt allow to open excel files bigger than 100MB. I cant even.
… finish a sentence.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#94Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
I will keep using "classic" for as long as possible. This trend to turn everything into painfully slow web apps is really getting on my nerves. As an example, I use quick steps very frequently to categorize emails. In classic Outlook, I click the button and the email is moved immediately - in the new Outlook it has a ~1 second delay until the email is moved and I can move the next one. Takes so long to get through my…
In classic Outlook, I really hate the animated lagging cursor when composing. Seems like it can't be disabled any more? (Same with Excel) Maybe this is to prepare us for slower new Outlook?
> Seems like it can't be disabled any more?
Try that checkbox: https://www.howtogeek.com/742678/how-to-turn-off-animations-...
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
It runs in the browser to allow for more options regarding interoperability. When Outlook is a web app and Teams is a web app you can throw components from one into the other anywhere on the screen. It also saves a lot of money building apps this way. This is the case for all apps built by Microsoft and the trend is not going to change. In Microsoft, all product managers care about is shipping more features, because…
> you can throw components from one into the other anywhere on the screen. Wasn't this office OLE from the 90s? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Object_Linking_and_Embedding
The difference is this is proprietary and you have to maintain it plus train every new employee on it till the end of time. I'm sure you've noticed Microsoft's direction is to use more and more public tools in their software and avoid less popular and proprietary tools (even their own). It's done to reduce costs of both development and training.
They have no regard for the outcome of this approach when it comes to software UX because most of their customers don't get to choose the software they use (enterprise). The apps just need to be good enough to sell to company management.
It's a very good business model and only surprising if you consider MS to be a software company more than they are a money making company.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#97If you still use Outlook for ANYTHING then it's self-inflicted and well deserved.
Or employer inflicted and you install libreoffice.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#98The worst thing about this, to me, is that Windows Mail client, the one they're discontinuing, is a fantastic piece of software. It's simple, lean, capable, and elegantly designed. It's perfect for a novice computer user to check their email on. The new cloud thing is worse in every way. It confusingly copies your email over from your email provider's servers onto Microsoft's servers, and then shows an ad that looks…
checkout WinoMail, more or less a open source clone of Windows Mail:
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#99They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.
I will keep using "classic" for as long as possible. This trend to turn everything into painfully slow web apps is really getting on my nerves. As an example, I use quick steps very frequently to categorize emails. In classic Outlook, I click the button and the email is moved immediately - in the new Outlook it has a ~1 second delay until the email is moved and I can move the next one. Takes so long to get through my…
MS: just buy a faster CPU, not my problem
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#100Well, it has more Copilot AI stuff baked in, that's what people want nowadays.