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Post by jeremyjh »

diggan wrote: post #211
maguay wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, 100%, is the reason I feel like the sand's shifting under my feet. We went from trusting computing output to having to second-guess everything. And it's tiring.

I kind of feel like if you're using a "Random text generator based on probability" for something that you need to trust, you're kind of holding this tool wrong. I wouldn't complain a RNG doesn't return the numbers I want, so why complain you don't get 100% trusted output from a random text generator?

Because people provide that work without acknowledging it was created by a RNG, representing it as their own and implying some of level of assurance that it is actually true.

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Post by danielbln »

t43562 wrote: post #43
wrasee wrote: post #30

For me what’s important is that you are able to communicate effectively. If you use language tools, other tools or even a real personal assistant if you effectively communicate the point that ultimately is yours in the making I expect that that is ultimately is what is important and will ultimately win out. Otherwise this is just about style. That’s important where personal creative expression is important, and in fa…

The problem is that we haven't invented AI that reads the crap that other AIs produce - so the burden is now on the reader to make sense of whatever other people lazily generate.

But we do. The same AI that generates can read and reduce/summarize/evaluate.

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Post by cubefox »

neta1337 wrote: post #273
cubefox wrote: post #250

I'm not tired, I'm afraid. First, I'm afraid of technological unemployment. In the past, automation meant that workers could move into non-automated jobs, if they were skilled enough. But superhuman AI seems now only few years away. It will be our last invention, it will mean total automation. There will be hardly any, if any, jobs left only a human can do. Many countries will likely move away from a job-based market…

>But superhuman AI seems now only few years away Seems unreasonable. You are afraid because marketing gurus like Altman made you believe that a frog that can make bigger leap than before will be able to fly.

No, because we have seen massive improvements in AI over the last years, and all the evidence points to this progress continuing at a fast pace.

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Post by senko »

Gigachad wrote: post #109
gizmo wrote: post #33

AI writing is pretty bad, AI code is pretty bad, AI art is pretty bad. We all know this. But it's easy to forget how many new opportunities open up when something becomes 100x or 10000x cheaper. Things that are 10x worse but 100x cheaper are still extremely valuable. It's the relentless drive to making things cheaper, even at the expense of quality, that has made our high quality of life possible. You can make houses…

Why do we need art to be 10000x cheaper? There was already more than enough art being produced. Now we just have infinite waves of slop drowning out everything that’s actually good.

This is mixing up two meanings of "art". Mona Lisa doesn't need to be 10000x cheaper.

Random illustration on a random blog post sure could.

Art as an evocative expression of the artist shouldn't be cheapened. But those freelancers churning content on Fiverr aren't pouring their soul into it.

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Post by desdenova »

elnasca2 wrote: post #51
low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

What fascinates me about your comment is that you are expressing that you trusted what you read before. For me, LLMs don't change anything. I already questioned the information before and continue to do so. Why do you think that you could trust what you read before? Is it now harder for you to distinguish false information, and if so, why?

Exactly. The web before LLMs was mostly low effort SEO spam written by low-wage people in marketing agencies.

Now it's mostly zero effort LLM-generated SEO spam, and the low-wage workers lost their jobs.

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Post by vouaobrasil »

makin wrote: post #16
sovietmudkipz wrote: post #4

I am tired and hungry… The thing I’m tired of is elites stealing everything under the sun to feed these models. So funny that copyright is important when it protects elites but not when a billion thefts are committed by LLM folks. Poor incentives for creators to create stuff if it just gets stolen and replicated by AI. I’m hungry for more lawsuits. The biggest theft in human history by these gang of thieves should be…

I'm sorry if this is strawmanning you, but I feel you're basically saying it's in the public's interest to give more power to Intellectual Property law, which historically hasn't worked out so well for the public.

The difference is that before, intellectual property law was used by corporations to enrich themselves. Now intellectual property law could theoretically be used to combat an even bigger enemy: big tech stealing all possible jobs. It's just a matter of practicality, like all law is.

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Post by layer8 »

dannersy wrote: post #214
Kuinox wrote: post #189

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I don't like the opinion of certain persons I read on HN, therefore HN is on a down trend"

Like I've said to someone else, the contrarian part isn't the issue. While I disagree with the race to the bottom, it reads like a Reddit shitpost, which was frowned upon once upon a time. But strawman me if you must.

I think you need to recalibrate, it does not read like a Reddit shitpost at all.

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Post by vouaobrasil »

eleveriven wrote: post #34

AI is a tool, and like any tool, it's only as good as how we choose to use it.

No, that is wrong. We can't "choose" because too many people have instincts. And people always have the instinct to use new technology to gain incremental advantages over others, and that in turn puts pressure on everyone to use it. That prisoner's dilemma situation means that without a firm and larger guiding moral philosophy, we really can't choose because instinct takes over choice. In other words, the way technology is used in modern society is not a matter of choice but is largely autonomous and goes beyond human choice. (Of course, a few individuals will choose but the average effect is likely to be negative.)
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