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Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by piker »

Gigachad wrote: post #142
thewarrior wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s writing most of my code now. Even if it’s existing code you can feed in the 1-2 files in question and iterate on them. Works quite well as long as you break it down a bit. It’s not gas lighting the latest versions of GPT, Claude, Lama have gotten quite good

These tools must be absolutely massively better than whatever Microsoft has then because I’ve found that GitHub copilot provides negative value, I’d be more productive just turning it off rather than auditing it’s incorrect answers hoping one day it’s as good as people market it as.

Which languages do you use?

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by jokethrowaway »

sovietmudkipz wrote: post #4

I am tired and hungry… The thing I’m tired of is elites stealing everything under the sun to feed these models. So funny that copyright is important when it protects elites but not when a billion thefts are committed by LLM folks. Poor incentives for creators to create stuff if it just gets stolen and replicated by AI. I’m hungry for more lawsuits. The biggest theft in human history by these gang of thieves should be…

It's the other way round. The little guys will never win, it will be just a money transfer from one large corp to another.

We should just scrap copyright and everybody plays a fair game, including us hackers.

Sue me because of breach of contract in civil court for damages because I shared your content, don't send the police and get me jailed directly.

I had my software cracked and stolen and I would never go after the users. They don't have any contract with me. They downloaded some bytes from the internet and used it. Finding whoever shared the code without authorization is hard and even so, suing them would cost me more than the money I'm likely to get back. Fair game, you won.

It's a natural market "tax" on selling a lot of copies and earning passively.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by BoGoToTo »

zone411 wrote: post #165

The author is in for a rough time in the coming years, I'm afraid. We've barely scratched the surface with AI's integration into everything. None of the major voice assistants even have proper language models yet, and ChatGPT only just introduced more natural, low-latency voices a few days ago. Software development is going to be massively impacted.

My worry is what happens once large segments of the population become unemployable.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by nottorp »

williamcotton wrote: post #95
low_tech_love wrote: post #27

The most depressing thing for me is the feeling that I simply cannot trust anything that has been written in the past 2 years or so and up until the day that I die. It's not so much that I think people have used AI, but that I know they have with a high degree of certainty, and this certainty is converging to 100%, simply because there is no way it will not. If you write regularly and you're not using AI, you simply…

Well we’re going to need some system of PKI that is tied to real identities. You can keep being anonymous if you want but I would prefer not and prefer to not interact with the anonymous, just like how I don’t want to interact with people wearing ski masks.

Why are you posting on this forum where the user's identity isn't verified by anyone then? :)

But the real problem is that having the poster's identity verified is no proof that their output is not coming straight from a LLM.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by quietbritishjim »

roenxi wrote: post #129
nicce wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the past, you had to put a lot of effort to produce a text which seemed to be high quality, especially when you knew nothing about the subject. By the look of text and the usage of the words, you could tell how professional the writer was and you had some confidence that the writer knew something about the subject. Now, that is completely removed. There is no easy filter anymore. While the professional looking tex…

> While the professional looking text could have been already wrong, the likelihood was smaller... I don't criticise you for it, because that strategy is both rational and popular. But you never checked the accuracy of your information before so you have no way of telling if it has gotten more or less accurate with the advent of AI. You were testing for whether someone of high social intelligence wanted you to believ…

How do you "check the accuracy of your information" if all the other reliable-sounding sources could also be AI generated junk? If it's something in computing, like whether something compiles, you can sometimes literally check for yourself, but most things you read about are not like that.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by thewarrior »

StefanWestfal wrote: post #173
thewarrior wrote: post #127

I’m tired of farming - Someone in 5000 BC I’m tired of electricity - Someone in 1905 I’m tired of consumer apps - Someone in 2020 The revolution will happen regardless. If you participate you can shape it in the direction you believe in. AI is the most innovative thing to happen in software in a long time. And personally AI is FUN. It sparks joy to code using AI. I don’t need anyone else’s opinion I’m having a blast.…

At no point does the author suggest that AI is not going to happen or that it is not useful. He expresses frustration with marketing, false promises, pitching of superficial solutions for deep problems, and the usage of AI to replace meaningful human interactions. In short, the text is not about the technology itself.

That’s always the case with any new technology. Tech isn’t going to make everyone happy or achieve world peace.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by williamcotton »

nottorp wrote: post #184
williamcotton wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well we’re going to need some system of PKI that is tied to real identities. You can keep being anonymous if you want but I would prefer not and prefer to not interact with the anonymous, just like how I don’t want to interact with people wearing ski masks.

Why are you posting on this forum where the user's identity isn't verified by anyone then? :) But the real problem is that having the poster's identity verified is no proof that their output is not coming straight from a LLM.

I don’t really have a choice about interacting with the anonymous at this point.

It certainly will affect the reputation of people that are consistently publishing untruths.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by diggan »

dannersy wrote: post #177
DiscourseFan wrote: post #46

The underlying technology is good. But what the fuck. LLMs, these weird, surrealistic art-generating programs like DALL-E, they're remarkable. Don't tell me they're not, we created machines that are able to tap directly into the collective unconscious. That is a serious advance in our productive capabilities. Or at least, it could be. It could be if it was unleashed , if these crummy corporations didn't force it to b…

The fact I even see responses like this shows me that HN is not the place it used to be, or at the very least, it is on a down trend. I've been alarmed by many sentiments that seemed popular on HN in the past, but seeing more and more people welcome a race to the bottom such as this is sad. When I read this, I cannot tell if it's performance art or not, that's how bad this genuinely is.

> The fact I even see responses like this shows me that HN is not the place it used to be, or at the very least, it is on a down trend.

Judging a large group of people based on what a few write seems very un-scientific at best.

Especially when it comes to things that have been rehashed since I've joined HN (and probably earlier to). Feels like there will always be someone lamenting how HN isn't how it used to be, or how reddit influx ruined HN, or how HN isn't about startups/technical stuff/$whatever anymore.

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by Kuinox »

dannersy wrote: post #177
DiscourseFan wrote: post #46

The underlying technology is good. But what the fuck. LLMs, these weird, surrealistic art-generating programs like DALL-E, they're remarkable. Don't tell me they're not, we created machines that are able to tap directly into the collective unconscious. That is a serious advance in our productive capabilities. Or at least, it could be. It could be if it was unleashed , if these crummy corporations didn't force it to b…

The fact I even see responses like this shows me that HN is not the place it used to be, or at the very least, it is on a down trend. I've been alarmed by many sentiments that seemed popular on HN in the past, but seeing more and more people welcome a race to the bottom such as this is sad. When I read this, I cannot tell if it's performance art or not, that's how bad this genuinely is.

"I don't like the opinion of certain persons I read on HN, therefore HN is on a down trend"

Re: I Am Tired of AI

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Post by BoGoToTo »

thenaturalist wrote: post #81
littlestymaar wrote: post #36

It's not AI you hate, it's Capitalism.

Say what you want about income and asset inequality, but capitalism has done more to lift hundreds of millions of people out of poverty over the past 50 years than any other religion, aid programme or whatever else. I think it's very important and fair to be critical about how we as a society implement capitalism, but such broad generalization misses the mark immensely. Talk to anyone who grew up in a Communist count…

Ok, but let's take this to the logical conclusion that at some point there will be models which displace a large segment of the workforce. How does capitalism even function then?
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