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Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#72

The worst thing about this, to me, is that Windows Mail client, the one they're discontinuing, is a fantastic piece of software. It's simple, lean, capable, and elegantly designed. It's perfect for a novice computer user to check their email on. The new cloud thing is worse in every way. It confusingly copies your email over from your email provider's servers onto Microsoft's servers, and then shows an ad that looks…

For me, copying to the cloud is a deal-breaker (I switched to proton mail for a reason!). Fortunately, there's Thunderbird. I don't trust Microsoft not to do dodgy Google-like things with my data at this point.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#74
It's one bad thing to sync all one's email to the their cloud. It's another bad thing to give the cloud the credentials to sync one's email directly. So in theory even if you stop using the client they can still get your email without your knowledge and explicit permission (ie you are not using the client and would reasonably expect they don't have access to new emails).

Also the cloud service now have the capability to save then retrieve the credentials in plain text making them a rich target for being compromised.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#76
post #71

Folks, don't complain. You wanted the cloud, you're getting the cloud.

People didn't want the cloud. Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and others wanted everyone in the cloud to get them on the subscription bandwagon.

I hope more and more people vote with their wallets and go to other platforms and tools.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#77
post #18

They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.

Yeah they did the same with the Mac version. It's still a real app, not electron. But it lacked features and still does. For example when you set your out of office you no longer have the ability to auto-decline all your meetings during this period.

And the "Block sender" button was missing for about a year until it was reintroduced (and now it is still missing from the mobile outlook app!). I always block sender instead of move to spam. Which MS wants to avoid people using because many spammers are their Office 365 customers too :(

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

#79

New Outlook is 100% shit. So many features missing. Even adding attachments is sick. Of course, given it's an embedded web app.

Yeah if you have O365 it always tries to goad you into uploading stuff into onedrive and sharing a link instead of just attaching stuff. Very annoying because the process for externals to sign into sharepoint (which onedrive is just a wrapper for) is terrible.

Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)

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post #18

They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.

MS Teams is a UX disaster zone. So if that is any indication, the new Outlook might not be that great. MS is oddly inept building good UIs lately. Things like Outlook and Office are still a big part of their revenue; so it's kind of odd just how terrible their products are.

I haven't used Office in over a decade. Just not a thing in startups. But teams seems to be a necessary evil to be able to talk with our customers who insist on using it. So I get exposed to that quite a bit. Horrible bit of software.

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