The website is forcing me to disable ad blocking, but I am just using Orion browser and am happy with it, so can not see the content.
Have you tried disabling JS? It works for me on most sites, including this one.
Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
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Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#42one step closer to finally merge hotmail and outlook together
As far as I can tell, they have already merged. Both the free version of Mail and enterprise version of Outlook (New) run the same user interface.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#43My worst fear is if Microsoft decides to fiddle with Hotmail/outlook and make it into something I have to pay for. I've had my email address for 15+ years, it's going to be a impossible task to change email address everywhere.
Yeah, that's why I always tell people to buy a domain for email, so they can move it where they want at any time. Hopefully, it becomes more and more standard with email providers. But when you have a long history, the best you can do is setup a redirection and change email address at the few places where it is really important (bank, google/microsoft/apple account, ...).
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#44They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.
Yep, it's my fault guys, sorry: I just migrated my grandma from Outlook 2007 to the new Outlook last week, so of course they have to deprecate it. Keeping the oldies sharp by having them learn new UI patterns every now and then
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#45My worst fear is if Microsoft decides to fiddle with Hotmail/outlook and make it into something I have to pay for. I've had my email address for 15+ years, it's going to be a impossible task to change email address everywhere.
I mean…do you plan on outlasting Hotmail? 15 years isn’t that long. Your choices are probably to do it proactively or to do it when your back is against the wall. There is no third option. I’m not going to be like one of those insane nerds advocating for running your own mail server, but if you care about email address longevity, mail at one’s own domain seems the only way to actually achieve that. These days, it’s zero effort to use Fastmail or Hey or something to get email at your own domain. They register it for you and everything! The hard bit is, as you say, moving everything. But, again, that’s inevitable.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#46They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.
Not only does the UI suck, most keyboard shortcuts also no longer work or are just way to slow for my workflow.
Same with msteams. I have mistakenly called so many groups by accidentally pressing Ctrl shift C instead of Ctrl shift v (unformatted paste). When I ask Microsoft people, they say they use power toys to disable this shortcut so they know this is a problem...
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#47I don't mind the new outlook. The meeting notifications are far less intrusive. You can update a meeting without spamming new emails. The simplified views do 95%of what I use it for. The calendar view is easier to read.
Everyone will hate this but whatever, internal company email is dead. It causes more issues than solutions. Phishing, spam, malware, etc. It's legacy tech.
The new outlook client is linking it with more modern medium specific communication such as loop, teams, sharepoint online, one drive etc.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#48They've recently renamed Outlook to Outlook (classic). So you can see which way the wind is blowing on this. Outlook (new) is still missing tons of big features and the UI sucks.
I will keep using "classic" for as long as possible. This trend to turn everything into painfully slow web apps is really getting on my nerves. As an example, I use quick steps very frequently to categorize emails. In classic Outlook, I click the button and the email is moved immediately - in the new Outlook it has a ~1 second delay until the email is moved and I can move the next one. Takes so long to get through my…
In classic Outlook, I really hate the animated lagging cursor when composing. Seems like it can't be disabled any more? (Same with Excel)
Maybe this is to prepare us for slower new Outlook?
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#49I know this is anecdata but many Outlook users I spoke with few years ago was wanting this feature to happen. And given how rampant cryptolockers were in those organisations, they're probably joyful about it not being stored locally.
Re: Microsoft's new Outlook client moves your email to the cloud (2023)
#50The worst thing about this, to me, is that Windows Mail client, the one they're discontinuing, is a fantastic piece of software. It's simple, lean, capable, and elegantly designed. It's perfect for a novice computer user to check their email on. The new cloud thing is worse in every way. It confusingly copies your email over from your email provider's servers onto Microsoft's servers, and then shows an ad that looks…
That time never existed, there were plenty of subgroups inside Microsoft that wanted to make useful software.
Plenty of people still in there that do.
But it's never been a general policicy of Microsoft that turned into actual culture and actions.
Because that would require a general vision in that direction, which would imply we would never have one version out of two of Windows (Me, Vista, 8, 11...) that looks like a prototype.
We would not have the mess of UI with thousands of toolkits, the infamous env var windows staying unusable for decades, the right click "more option" in W11 that changes theme mid-flight.
We wouldn't have had the awful windows media player that couldn't read anything without a pack of spyware installed in the 90'. Or IE6 being frozen into obsolescence. Or ads in the start menu.
Teams file sharing and chat would not suck. Word would not destroy your layout because you move an image on pixel on the left. Access wouldn't produce the most corruptible db ever. The File explorer would not start in 7 seconds randomly in some machines (see last twitter trend), and its search would actually be useful.
The wizard to fix your internet issues would have solved a problem at least once. MS would not allow tons of crapware to be installed by 3rd party. Python in the windows store would not have been made non standard.
We wouldn't have to wait 2020 to have an upgrade to the terminal. The registry would be self documenting. Skype wouldn't have been destroyed after being bought. You would be able to get to your user directory easily out of the box. Cortana would be useful. Surface wouldn't run to crawl because they would be optimized for their hardware.
I can continue like that for hours.
Because those are not subtle issues. There are other teams at Microsoft that would never let that happen.
The priority of MS is to conquer the market. At some points it meant being a bully. Now it's to pretend to be FOSS BFF. It's always been about getting devs on the platforms, and business on the hook.
But at no point in MS history has been ever been, when you at the actual results, making good software.
Good software like .Net, AoE 2 or Excel were made by the few of their accidentally amazing team.