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91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by Rinzler89 »

verzali wrote: post #44
Rinzler89 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your examples are strictly former colonies of Britain. This was not the case in Continental Europe where the British had no colonies. By that logic Nazi Germany should also be credited for improving democracy around the world since its war with Britain, France, Netherlands and Belgium made them so weak post-WW2 that it allowed their former colonies to gain independence.

French and Spanish colonies actually. Ironic since the French supported the American revolution to stick it to the British.

You're right, my bad

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by returnInfinity »

underseacables wrote: post #46

I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.

yes, but this is still a loss in quality of life for people who work hard.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by sneed_chucker »

underseacables wrote: post #46

I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.

I think there's an element of truth to what you're saying, but there's also lots of work avoidance in office as well.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by MattPalmer1086 »

underseacables wrote: post #49
nahname wrote: post #2

Working as expected. https://www.theregister.com/2024/06/09/rto_quit_study/

I think the visibility is important. After 20 years in the workforce, I've learned that it's more important to be liked than it is to do a good job. If people work from home, the managers have trouble knowing who to keep, and who to lay off, because they can't interact with you socially in person.

Wow, that is wrong on so many levels. Getting rid of good workers because you don't personally like them? Keeping your mates even if they're useless?

If a manager can't figure out who is productive from looking at what they deliver and how, then the manager needs to be finding another job.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #30
klaussilveira wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you saying that the American Revolution, which established the first modern constitutional republic, directly inspiring the French Revolution, Haitian Revolution, and rest of Atlantic Revolutions, famous for the "shot heard 'round the world", did not have any impact on the world?

Your examples are strictly former colonies of Britain. This was not the case in Continental Europe where the British had no colonies. By that logic Nazi Germany should also be credited for improving democracy around the world since its war with Britain, France, Netherlands and Belgium made them so weak post-WW2 that it allowed their former colonies to gain independence.

Nazi Germany definitely changed the world. They don't get "credit" for it because their goals were very different than the result and their methods were abhorrent, but their rise and fall is without a doubt one of the most significant events in world history.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by TheCoelacanth »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #41
odyssey7 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Check out the constitutions of democracies founded after the United States. There’s a whole lot of influence.

Check out the constitutions of democracies founded after WW2.

Are you claiming that WW2 didn't change the world?

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by aaomidi »

malfist wrote: post #39
mozman wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really all that or you just disagree? Have to be kind and respectful of others - especially when they are not to you. I think a lot of people are afraid to tell the truth. After years of pretending and keeping it bottled up inside there will be some unhealthy elements.

I just logged in to see what showed up first First post shown to me is: Amazon culture is bad because of Indian work culture. Second is: Should Hindi be made the national language? Next is one complaining about dei getting women into high paying tech jobs instead of plumbing. The fourth is the first one that's not racist or sexist and is about openai. So yes, I think it is really "all that"

But see! It’s actually GOOD to have racist discourse!!!

- HN

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by cooloo »

underseacables wrote: post #46

I think it's worth exploring the interesting psychology behind WFH. If you ask anybody they would say they would want to work from home. Regardless of the efficiency, the job, all of that, WFH in my opinion has more to do with avoiding work than it does actual work. When you are at work, you can't avoid it, but when you are home, you can walk away, pretend, and make your boss think you are working.

So basically you saying manager need to see people in order to know there stuff is working. If someone pretend to work at home he will pretend to work at work.

Re: 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO, 3-in-4 want to jump ship

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Post by [deleted] »

j-bos wrote: post #34
threetonesun wrote: post #20

Not Amazon: back in 2021 we were still completely remote, but for new candidates they insisted they be near an office location. A coworker complained that we were missing out on good candidates when our team was already remote, but I told him what was up - over time you get more people who are ok with the idea of being in an office, and then once you hit some critical mass, you just flip the switch and say "everyone…

>IMO truly remote companies are not just a physical difference from in-office companies, there's a whole way of doing business shift as well. Physical companies have office shaped brains and poor async communication skills.

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