We are also going back 2 days per week and next year 3 days a week. Only thing I can do is to work from 10-4. Not gonna pay the 1-hour commute * 2 myself.
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#12Blind isn't exactly a representative sample of the Amazon workforce... These days Blind has become quite an ugly dumping ground for racist, misogynistic, and generally unpleasant ignorant discourse.
It's always had those elements, but over the last year or two it seems that's all they promote to their front page anymore. Can't even log in anymore without the first page load being full of far right screeds.
Is it really all that or you just disagree? Have to be kind and respectful of others - especially when they are not to you.
I think a lot of people are afraid to tell the truth. After years of pretending and keeping it bottled up inside there will be some unhealthy elements.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
About 250 years ago, some of the peasants in the Americas had beef with the royal family, and it changed the world.
It changed the USA, it didn't change "the world". Where I'm originally from, nothing changed after the US revolution. Why do Americans seem to think the world always revolved around their country?
Check out the constitutions of democracies founded after the United States. There’s a whole lot of influence.
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#14Short term it doesn’t matter for Amazon, they are printing money but more challenging times are ahead and wouldn’t mind to reduce their headcount. Being “unhappy” has been the staple of most Amazon employees since the beginning - see Yegge blog posts. Tech jobs do not abound right now, so if they are going to do this, the moment is now. The discussion if this is the right move or not ( for the future of the company)…
About 250 years ago, some of the peasants in the Americas had beef with the royal family, and it changed the world.
Worth looking up the history of Activision for a less grand and more analogous example.
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#15Short term it doesn’t matter for Amazon, they are printing money but more challenging times are ahead and wouldn’t mind to reduce their headcount. Being “unhappy” has been the staple of most Amazon employees since the beginning - see Yegge blog posts. Tech jobs do not abound right now, so if they are going to do this, the moment is now. The discussion if this is the right move or not ( for the future of the company)…
About 250 years ago, some of the peasants in the Americas had beef with the royal family, and it changed the world.
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#16>> 91% of polled Amazon staff unhappy with RTO
Really? I seriously doubt that 91% of people working for Amazon have ever done a single day of work from home. From drivers to warehouse workers, the vast majority of tasks within the Amazon sphere cannot be done via wifi. This is about the office-working elite of corporate Amazon. The actual company as a whole is very different and will continue regardless of how happy/unhappy the corporate office staff claim to be.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
About 250 years ago, some of the peasants in the Americas had beef with the royal family, and it changed the world.
Were they peasants or land owning gentry?
The land owning gentry ofc. People still mistakenly romanticize the French revolution being about the poor killing the rich by guillotine, when it was actually the rich nobility (land owning gentry) getting the royalty beheaded via the publics' uprising. Same with the Russian revolution that got the Romanovs killed and replaced by the Soviets.
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#18I thought that was the point.
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#19I don't work in Amazon nor I have any particular information about this (although I have friends working there) but isn't this the intention in most companies that implement RTO against employees' wishes? There's always some collateral damage when virtually irreplaceable people jump ship but this is definitely planned. It's a cheap way to get rid of headcount. It only works when most big companies agree to do it at roughly the same timeline, otherwise people will just switch companies - RTO is too big of a perk to ignore, specially if you have a family.
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#20Not Amazon: back in 2021 we were still completely remote, but for new candidates they insisted they be near an office location. A coworker complained that we were missing out on good candidates when our team was already remote, but I told him what was up - over time you get more people who are ok with the idea of being in an office, and then once you hit some critical mass, you just flip the switch and say "everyone back".
Which is, of course, what happened. On the other hand, the company never got good at the idea of "remote" work anyway, it was the same stuff you'd do in an office but over Zoom. IMO truly remote companies are not just a physical difference from in-office companies, there's a whole way of doing business shift as well.