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Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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Re: Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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> he is allowed as long as they follow GPLv2, which is the case with WP Engine. Unless I missed something, no one claimed it's not legal. There are lots of things that are legal but nonetheless not nice. Just because it's legal doesn't mean you can't say "that's not nice" or "you shouldn't be doing that". "It's legal" is not an argument here. It's completely besides the point.

He is allowed to say that, but not in the project's site, less alone without a previous discussion with the community which, AFAIK, didn't happen.

Why not? Is there some set of community rules about it?

Re: Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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> I think it’s fair for the creator of the product (WP) to criticize competition that undermines a feature he considers important to him That his own product ALSO gates access to, unless you pay the top tier for? I don't think it's fair to criticize the competition for that, and not acknowledge that you do the same, no.

How is it gated on Wordpress.com? Here are the docs: https://wordpress.org/documentation/article/revisions/

That's the open source project. WordPress.com, Matt's for-profit venture, gates revisions (and statistics, and plugins) behind a higher paying tier.

Re: Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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post #29
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> he is allowed as long as they follow GPLv2, which is the case with WP Engine. Unless I missed something, no one claimed it's not legal. There are lots of things that are legal but nonetheless not nice. Just because it's legal doesn't mean you can't say "that's not nice" or "you shouldn't be doing that". "It's legal" is not an argument here. It's completely besides the point.

He is allowed to say that, but not in the project's site, less alone without a previous discussion with the community which, AFAIK, didn't happen.

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Re: Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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This is a really basic blog post and it doesn’t make any kind of convincing argument for the provocative title. Towards the end it says: > I really like WordPress, as I’ve stated many times, but Matt has become an irresponsible and damaging actor. He urgently needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership, or he risks undermining WordPress’ popularity and driving the community away. But it makes at best, a really w…

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Re: Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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> Additionally, it’s also ironic (hypocritical, I’d say) for him to complain about the lack of post revisions as something that undermines WordPress, while Automattic offers WordPress without access to plugins and all themes in its basic hosting plans, and makes Jetpack, a Trojan horse to upsell features (even the basics, like… stats), mandatory for all users. It's absurd that they gate so many features behind their…

No one should be using any of the big wordpress hosts - theyre all overpriced garbage. Its so damn easy to get a WP site up and running with a decent and cheap VPS server and a cloud panel (e.g. runcloud, xcloud, enhance, spinupwp, gridpane, etc...). Some even have a free tier. Cyberpanel is even a free option, though clunky. For a rounding error of blog traffic which can probably be fully cached in cloudflare CDN, y…

You don't understand the core offering.

Re: Matt Mullenweg needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership ASAP

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This is a really basic blog post and it doesn’t make any kind of convincing argument for the provocative title. Towards the end it says: > I really like WordPress, as I’ve stated many times, but Matt has become an irresponsible and damaging actor. He urgently needs to step down from WordPress.org leadership, or he risks undermining WordPress’ popularity and driving the community away. But it makes at best, a really w…

> he CREATED Wordpress

No he didn't. Matt Mullenweg and Mike Little forked Michel Valdrighi's b2 cafeblog in 2003 to add new features and an admin panel. Wordpress is GPL because b2 was GPL. Matt built most of the early XHTML while Mike integrated patches and worked on the backend. Mike and Ryan Boren wrote large parts of the code early on. Christine Tremoulet came up with the name. Without them b2evolution or one of the other forks would've most likely raced ahead.

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