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Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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Re: Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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"again, not manufacturing the hardware" -- well, you noticed all Macs have nvidia or amd/ati GPUs and Intel processors, and are assembled by Foxconn? "That's because Apple isn't a real hardware company, it's all white-labelled." I guess?

I define companies by WHAT MAKES THEM MONEY. I can't tell if people are pedantic or dense. Apple makes money by selling hardware. Microsoft makes money by selling software. Google makes money by selling ads. Amazon makes money by selling goods. Graphic for the insanely dense: http://visualign.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/applemicrosoftg...

You aren't "defining" companies, you are /classifying/ them and you're classifying them into arbitrary boxes based on your strange, subjective and clearly disputed perceptions.

Let's move on from your inability to admit the silliness of classifying a large company with many different divisions as a "software company" and go back to your original contention: that Microsoft were unable to bring a new hardware device to market because they did not have a enough "supply chain dominance". Whatever "supply chain dominance means", you're wrong --- Microsoft have, in the past, released hardware products. The Xbox is an obvious example. So is Microsoft Surface. There is nothing more "whitelabel" about these products than there is about the MacBookPro.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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I define companies by WHAT MAKES THEM MONEY. I can't tell if people are pedantic or dense. Apple makes money by selling hardware. Microsoft makes money by selling software. Google makes money by selling ads. Amazon makes money by selling goods. Graphic for the insanely dense: http://visualign.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/applemicrosoftg...

You aren't "defining" companies, you are /classifying/ them and you're classifying them into arbitrary boxes based on your strange, subjective and clearly disputed perceptions. Let's move on from your inability to admit the silliness of classifying a large company with many different divisions as a "software company" and go back to your original contention: that Microsoft were unable to bring a new hardware device to…

It is different, "Microsoft Surface" is a damn Samsung product you can see on Samsung's site. http://www.samsunglfd.com/product/feature.do?modelCd=SUR40 ... and how many models do you think will ever ship, over its entire lifetime?

Apple designs its own hardware, even does some FAB work now in regards to its chips.

Microsoft doesn't move enough hardware to have anywhere near the supply chain power of Apple. Microsoft is a pathetic flee in the hardware world compared to apple. Hardware (manufactured and DESIGNED by others) makes up less than 20% of Microsoft's business.

Apple is first and foremost a hardware company. Apple is known for its incredibly well run supply chain and operations which give them amazing power to lean on manufacturers.

Apple will guarantee and lock in massive purchases removing the vast majority of risk from the hardware vendors, allowing hardware vendors to take risks on stuff like the Retina Display.

Nearly all of Microsoft's non-trivial plays have failed pushing and partnering with people. They promised to market and move tablets for years... FAIL. Windows Phone was going to change the world... FAIL. Zune... FAIL. Hardware vendors or rightfully terrified of Microsoft as a partner, even when they fully commit -- you know why? MICROSOFT IS NOT A HARDWARE COMPANY.

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/apples-supplychain-secr... ... and google "Apple Supply Chain" to find literally dozens of more stories about how good they are at this.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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It's not an mp3 player. It's an ipod. It's not a PDA. It's an iphone. It's not a tablet laptop. It's an ipad. It's not a high resolution display unit. It's a retina macbook.

This is very smart marketing for Apple. They have the assets (reputation, substantially different UX) that let them position their releases as new products rather than improved versions of existing products.

That said, most companies would fail completely if they tried this. The average startup wants their customers to quickly and easily recognize their product. YMMV.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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> Back when WPF was still called Avalon, Microsoft were pushing the technology as a solution for the soon-to-be-arriving high-dpi displays Although they were quieter about it, it has been quite clear that Apple was interested in resolution independence since at least 10.4, when such features started to show up. Remember that very few third-party Windows applications use WPF. Most first-party stuff, even, doesn't use…

It's a chicken-and-egg situation, agreed, It just seems really strange to me that they spent so much effort pushing and developing the software side, without putting any effort into the hardware, when the two clearly have to go hand-in-hand. Microsoft had the software stack ready - imagine if they had released (via partners) high-dpi laptops and screens shortly afterwards? That actually might have made a Windows mach…

Apple had a rather similar software stack ready, though; both worked on the basis of a point being a fractional number of pixels. The trouble with this is that while it tended to more or less work for simple things, for complex things, particularly where the programmer was drawing stuff, it was (a) somewhat inefficient and (b) very hard to get right. Apple used to periodically have talks at WWDC about how to get ready for independence back in 2006 or so, but it was clear that few developers were doing so successfully.

This new approach, where you have a point be an integer number of pixels, possibly with scaling after the fact (as with the non-standard resolutions available on the retina MacBook) is far simpler for developers, so more likely to work out okay.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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You aren't "defining" companies, you are /classifying/ them and you're classifying them into arbitrary boxes based on your strange, subjective and clearly disputed perceptions. Let's move on from your inability to admit the silliness of classifying a large company with many different divisions as a "software company" and go back to your original contention: that Microsoft were unable to bring a new hardware device to…

It is different, "Microsoft Surface" is a damn Samsung product you can see on Samsung's site. http://www.samsunglfd.com/product/feature.do?modelCd=SUR40 ... and how many models do you think will ever ship, over its entire lifetime? Apple designs its own hardware, even does some FAB work now in regards to its chips. Microsoft doesn't move enough hardware to have anywhere near the supply chain power of Apple. Microsoft…

It's also worth noting that Apple acquired Intrinsity a few years ago, a semiconductor company. They actually design ARM chips. Samsung is a customer.

Re: Retina MacBook Pro Review: The Age of the High-Resolution PC

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You aren't "defining" companies, you are /classifying/ them and you're classifying them into arbitrary boxes based on your strange, subjective and clearly disputed perceptions. Let's move on from your inability to admit the silliness of classifying a large company with many different divisions as a "software company" and go back to your original contention: that Microsoft were unable to bring a new hardware device to…

It is different, "Microsoft Surface" is a damn Samsung product you can see on Samsung's site. http://www.samsunglfd.com/product/feature.do?modelCd=SUR40 ... and how many models do you think will ever ship, over its entire lifetime? Apple designs its own hardware, even does some FAB work now in regards to its chips. Microsoft doesn't move enough hardware to have anywhere near the supply chain power of Apple. Microsoft…

That's the product that used to be called "Microsoft Surface", which was a table-sized touchscreen computer, not the new Microsoft Surface.
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