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Europe's deadly floods are glimpse of future climate

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Re: Europe's deadly floods are glimpse of future climate

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Totally agree, climate change is highlighting the places we messed up but had enough stable weather patterns to hide it. Lots of areas are getting absolutely flooded around Europe and it's basically because they drainer or changed the water courses, as well as making everything flat and smooth for (over)farming. And then you get a week of rains and everything goes tits up.

> The World Weather Attribution (WWA) group said one recent four-day period was the rainiest ever recorded in central Europe

And having the rainiest four day period in recorded history

Re: Europe's deadly floods are glimpse of future climate

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What's up with so many Hacker News commenters coming out of the woodwork when headlines blame climate change to challenge it?

Just a glimpse of the article shows there's some research behind making the point of the headline, still people feel the need to comment on their feelings to deny it possibly could be due to climate change.

Per the article:

> The World Weather Attribution (WWA) group said one recent four-day period was the rainiest ever recorded in central Europe - an intensity made twice as likely by climate change.

> The kind of rainfall unleashed by Boris is thankfully still rare – expected to occur about once every 100-300 years in today’s climate, which has warmed by about 1.3C due to greenhouse gas emissions.

> But if warming reaches 2C, similar episodes will become an extra 5% more intense and 50% more frequent, the WWA warned.

> Without more ambitious climate action, global warming is expected to reach around 3C by the end of the century.

> “This is definitely what we will see much more of in the future,” said Friederike Otto, senior lecturer in climate science at Imperial College London and co-author of the WWA study.

There's a study, BBC is reporting on it and some people feel the need to challenge it even though probably know nothing of climate science?

Is science denialism reaching even folks here? What do you get out of this behaviour?

Re: Europe's deadly floods are glimpse of future climate

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What's up with so many Hacker News commenters coming out of the woodwork when headlines blame climate change to challenge it? Just a glimpse of the article shows there's some research behind making the point of the headline, still people feel the need to comment on their feelings to deny it possibly could be due to climate change. Per the article: > The World Weather Attribution (WWA) group said one recent four-day p…

HN audience is both reflexively contrarian (will argue with any article on any subject), and also surprisingly rightwing (exposed to climate change denialists).

Re: Europe's deadly floods are glimpse of future climate

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What's up with so many Hacker News commenters coming out of the woodwork when headlines blame climate change to challenge it? Just a glimpse of the article shows there's some research behind making the point of the headline, still people feel the need to comment on their feelings to deny it possibly could be due to climate change. Per the article: > The World Weather Attribution (WWA) group said one recent four-day p…

It’s the Silicon Valley wannabe intellectualism that has somehow allied itself with contrarianism.

They just reflexively think the consensus view is wrong because daddy Thiel said you can make big money that way.

“The Contrarians”, of course, is its own silly tribe of lemmings that produces its opinions from its identity first and foremost.

Re: Europe's deadly floods are glimpse of future climate

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FTA: "Central Europe's devastating floods were made much worse by climate change" There are always been floods. But now they get worse. How much worse ? I don't know. And as another HNer said, land management has its part in this too...

> There are always been floods. But now they get worse. How much worse ? I don't know.

From the OP: "But if warming reaches 2C, similar episodes will become an extra 5% more intense and 50% more frequent, the WWA warned."

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