Yet Another Sign Up (Why Isn't Open ID More Popular By Now?)

Post by scoot » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 10:38 PM UTC

StavrosK wrote: post #11

It's common knowledge now that OpenID has severe usability problems. As much as I wanted it to work, none of my apps' visitors (hell, back in 2006) could understand what it was or how to use it. BrowserID, however, has now fixed most of these issues, and it's very straightforward to use. To try it out, you can have a look at http://www.yourpane.com/

Post by StavrosK » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 10:41 PM UTC

scoot wrote: post #22

StavrosK wrote: post #11

It's common knowledge now that OpenID has severe usability problems. As much as I wanted it to work, none of my apps' visitors (hell, back in 2006) could understand what it was or how to use it. BrowserID, however, has now fixed most of these issues, and it's very straightforward to use. To try it out, you can have a look at http://www.yourpane.com/

So I just signed up to your site with BrowserID, clicked the link in the mail they sent me, and got directed to... an almost blank BrowserID page. You're losing users right there if it doesn't redirect back to your site after account verification.

Post by StavrosK » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 10:43 PM UTC

callahad wrote: post #21

razwall wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"To log in, just enter your email address below and click the link that we send you. To log in again, you can save the link and use it directly (you don't have to request a new one)." In what world is that more usable than "Click here to login with Google / Yahoo"?

StavrosK has a hybrid auth system -- that's not a part of Persona (née BrowserID). Which is actually kind of cool -- because we use email addresses as identifiers, it's really easy to add Persona support alongside traditional auth mechanisms, and without giving up ownership of your users. If you want to see a more "pure" Persona implementation, our standard example site is at http://123done.org/ (and you can preview…

Post by StavrosK » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 10:47 PM UTC

callahad wrote: post #27

StavrosK wrote: post #24

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I don't think they can do that, unfortunately. Verification is done when you create a BrowserID account, so it'll never happen again, no matter which site you go to next. You'll just get logged in.

Yeah, that totally sucks. We're working on it. Support for post-verification redirects should land in production in ~2 weeks, IIRC. There will be an announcement on the Mozilla Identity blog when that goes live. (Sorry to threadsit here!)

Post by Domenic_S » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 10:53 PM UTC

pisipisipisi wrote: post #20

Take this as a few bitter words from an "grumpy OpenID early adopter": * because the user experience really requires you to have the "nascar effect" of several well-known icons. OpenID could scale horizontally technically but in fact it doesn't work that way. Except for a few providers (like Google) it is not "peer to peer" (many to many) but more like "business to customers" (one to many) relation * because the "lik…