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Re: Apple Releases Dedicated iOS Podcasts App

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I figured they were taking advertising money to fund both their work on the the app itself (which is free) and for maintaining the server infrastructure that allows them to stream quickly (which can't be cheap to them).

Which would be an appropriate arrangement of it was their content. But it isn't. Would you be willing to pay for those two products without the podcasts themselves? Of course not, the app and the servers are valuable to a consumer because of the content. If the content creators don't get a cut of that advertising money then the business model isn't fair. Not to mention that stitcher removes any editorial control over…

Sure. At the same time it is all of the content on Apple's own iTunes servers that gives value to those servers, and Apple uses that value to sell more hardware. Are podcast creators getting a cut of that? If not, then why might they think that business model is fair?

Edit to reply to below: that has been the case for the download model. How certain are you that this is still the case for the streaming model of this app? Have you sniffed the traffic?

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I use Downcast every day, not even as an advanced user, but just because I need to download podcasts on-the-go. This sucks in comparison. * Catalog (aka Store) is very slow and clunky. Takes 5-10 seconds to flag episodes as "Downloaded" after I click on a podcast I have episodes for. * Clicking download button takes 4-5 seconds to react. Progress of download is not shown in store, but only in Library. * No connection…

Fellow Downcast user. Love it. Use it everyday. It's the only the only app I have paid for (I have not pirated/stolen any either) and it's nearly the only app I use on my iPhone besides NPR and Netflix on my iPad.

Re: Apple Releases Dedicated iOS Podcasts App

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Apple's highly questionable and deeply unfortunate skeuomorphism kick continues unabated. Now we're treated to a radio dial which died out in 1995, and playing podcasts presents a reel-to-reel, which died out in god knows when. It's completely bizarre. I guess podcasts are a form of talk radio, but tying them to some ancient radio technology that anyone under the age of 18 will have never touched is mental. They're e…

I don't think it's as heavy-handed as you suggest. Most of the app's navigation is handled by tableviews and collection views. The dial that you reference is really a sideways scrollview (albeit with a material skin)--this controls a non-skeuomorphic list in an intuitive way that isn't confined to the limitations of a physical radio's interface. I'll grant that the tape deck is outdated, but it's a largely hidden lit…

There's no way the Podcasts app could be using collection views, because it runs on iOS 5.

Re: Apple Releases Dedicated iOS Podcasts App

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I use Stitcher. and they've put a lot of work into it...

I have been using Stitcher too, and love it. Interestingly, after The Talk Show moved from 5by5 over to Mule Radio, I contacted all of the parties involved to try to get the new version of the show on Stitcher, so that all of my postcasts are managed in one app. I got a reply from someone at Mule (whose name I didn't recognize) that said that they did not like Stitcher's business model. This strikes me as strange bec…

> But yet they have no problem with Apple hosting the podcast on their servers.

Apple doesn't host podcast episodes on their servers.. content is loaded directly from the provider's published URLs

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I use Downcast every day, not even as an advanced user, but just because I need to download podcasts on-the-go. This sucks in comparison. * Catalog (aka Store) is very slow and clunky. Takes 5-10 seconds to flag episodes as "Downloaded" after I click on a podcast I have episodes for. * Clicking download button takes 4-5 seconds to react. Progress of download is not shown in store, but only in Library. * No connection…

Considering this just launched, I might give it more than a few hours of testing to warm up to it.

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I understand why Apple felt the need to create this app. The current method of managing and listening to podcasts is split between iTunes and the Music app, and holds on to old models of syncing between the computer and the iPhone / iPod. It's a mess, and that, of course, is why there are third-party apps that have been doing a better job for podcast enthusiasts. Unfortunately, this is bad news for the makers of the…

I think anyone who listens to a lot of podcasts is still going to want a more serious app. I've never heard of Pocket Casts, but it looks really nice. I use Downcast and I see no reason to switch and lose features. Apple's not going to build auto playlists or server fetching.

Re: Apple Releases Dedicated iOS Podcasts App

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I don't think it's as heavy-handed as you suggest. Most of the app's navigation is handled by tableviews and collection views. The dial that you reference is really a sideways scrollview (albeit with a material skin)--this controls a non-skeuomorphic list in an intuitive way that isn't confined to the limitations of a physical radio's interface. I'll grant that the tape deck is outdated, but it's a largely hidden lit…

There's no way the Podcasts app could be using collection views, because it runs on iOS 5.

I'm using the term "collection view" in a generic way. Grid view-like interfaces appear elsewhere pre-iOS 6, like in iBooks for example.

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Which would be an appropriate arrangement of it was their content. But it isn't. Would you be willing to pay for those two products without the podcasts themselves? Of course not, the app and the servers are valuable to a consumer because of the content. If the content creators don't get a cut of that advertising money then the business model isn't fair. Not to mention that stitcher removes any editorial control over…

Sure. At the same time it is all of the content on Apple's own iTunes servers that gives value to those servers, and Apple uses that value to sell more hardware. Are podcast creators getting a cut of that? If not, then why might they think that business model is fair? Edit to reply to below: that has been the case for the download model. How certain are you that this is still the case for the streaming model of this…

Podcasts aren't hosted on apple's servers. iTunes simply links to them, without ads.

Re: Apple Releases Dedicated iOS Podcasts App

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I understand why Apple felt the need to create this app. The current method of managing and listening to podcasts is split between iTunes and the Music app, and holds on to old models of syncing between the computer and the iPhone / iPod. It's a mess, and that, of course, is why there are third-party apps that have been doing a better job for podcast enthusiasts. Unfortunately, this is bad news for the makers of the…

Considering the history Apple has of "absorbing" the features of popular third party apps, at this point developers should almost expect it to happen sooner or later.

I remember a time when that was the biggest criticism of Microsoft, the way they would absorb more and more features into Windows, putting all the little guys out of work.

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I understand why Apple felt the need to create this app. The current method of managing and listening to podcasts is split between iTunes and the Music app, and holds on to old models of syncing between the computer and the iPhone / iPod. It's a mess, and that, of course, is why there are third-party apps that have been doing a better job for podcast enthusiasts. Unfortunately, this is bad news for the makers of the…

This app only covers very basic needs, so even midly interested users would go try a third party app I think. The feature that strikes me the most is the lack of shownotes. I guess these are not part of the itunes hosted resources.

I found the shownotes by clicking the little "i" in the list interface, it doesn't seem to show up anywhere else, though.
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