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Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#131

If it does a good job, somebody should get paid for it. I wouldn't rely on using this if it depends on donations (I call this begware). People expect to pay for services and products.

In that case just use one of the many map tile providers already out there. This is huge for people that don't want to pay but also can't justify using that much server resources just to self-host.

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#132

Very cool, love the various tile sets (especially the 3d layer!) One thing that tripped me up is the zoom -- the affordance for zoom in/out across most other mapping UIs is via mouse motions -- how come in your demo it's restricted to the +/- buttons? Perhaps I missed something... Thanks for sharing this, looks very neat.

That's something that most tile viewers let you customize in the code. Sometimes you want to disable scroll wheel zoom so as to not interrupt page scrolling, like when the map takes up a large portion of the width of the page.

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#133
Something I'd be willing to pay for is historical tiles/data.

I'm writing an application that lets you view historical data, and the problem is that most/all map services show only current data. It would be nice if the map reflected the year of the data we're layering on top.

So if you want to make some money, there's an option for you!

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#134

If it does a good job, somebody should get paid for it. I wouldn't rely on using this if it depends on donations (I call this begware). People expect to pay for services and products.

> I call this begware

So disrespectful and so ignorant. You rely on free software without even knowing it but are happy to not dig around much and benefit from it. But heres a new project and you call it begware.

If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all.

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#135
post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think both solutions could easily saturate a 1 Gbps line. I benchmarked Btrfs + nginx and it could do 30 Gbps, which doesn't really make a difference if your server is 1 Gbps only. The fact that there is no service running was the more important for me. Mostly for security and bugs. I had so many problems with various tile servers in production, they needed daily restarting, they had memory leaks, etc. Basically I…

I see, I think that's a good approach to enable serving with stock nginx as well as for companies that are built on Nginx or a plain HTTP serving stack already. For PMTiles the module is loadable directly as a Caddy plugin ( https://docs.protomaps.com/deploy/server#caddyfile ) which I prefer to nginx for security and bugs (and automatic SSL), and also enables serving PMTiles from disk or a remote storage bucket witho…

Yes, PMTiles with the Caddy plugin is very similar to nginx + Btrfs.

At that point, the difference between the two projects is mostly which schema is being used.

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#136
post #56

Hard links are to deduplicate identical tiles, right? How much does that save and how close is the tile with most links (empty one(s)?) to the filesystem limits? Inquiring minds want to know...

Yes, exactly, it's to save space. For example there is one such tile for "ocean", which covers 70% of earth. In total, there are 271 million hard links. So out of 300 million files 271 are hard links! The file system limit is 64k hard-links for the same file, so I have to handle the case when it's reached and then start a new file for the next 64k.

Just out of curiosity, is there no clever way to solve this within nginx with rules instead?

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#137
post #118

I understand you don't plan to make money, only to cover costs. Nevertheless, I believe you would benefit from a more explicit "business plan". Your Gold support plan kind of fulfills that purpose (email support and an invoice), but right now it's kind of hidden in the middle of a donation request, and flavored as a donation. You might convince a lot more mba-type people to support you if you also extend the same off…

To be honest I don't see the problem with making commercial use non-free. (a) They're making millions, you deserve a cut of that. (b) If making money makes you more likely to be around in 10 years, that's attractive to businesses. Nobody knows when your donations might suddenly dry up.

The thing is that hosting this really isn't that expensive. My first GitHub Sponsors goal is to reach $175 per month, which would cover the hosting on Hetzner. Of course this cost can grow if the project gets more popular, but it's a good start!

I honestly believe this project can cover $175 per month eventually.

Of course there is the countless hours which went and which can possibly go into this, but to cover the hosting is still meaningful.

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#138
I think this is great, and also that you are getting some good advice in the comments about covering costs and/or monitization. I'd add my thoughts, but others have already expressed them here so I just wanted to say I love seeing this kind of philosophy expressed in a project like this.

edit to fix typo

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#139
post #133

Something I'd be willing to pay for is historical tiles/data. I'm writing an application that lets you view historical data, and the problem is that most/all map services show only current data. It would be nice if the map reflected the year of the data we're layering on top. So if you want to make some money, there's an option for you!

Have you heard of:

https://www.openhistoricalmap.org

I don't think you can pay for it, but I'm sure they'd accept donations!

Re: Show HN: OpenFreeMap – Open-Source Map Hosting

#140
As a Roman, the decision on how to prioritize the labels seems very interesting to me!

https://i.postimg.cc/tCn1xSRF/image.png

p.s. very cool project indeed

edit: I don't know how it happened, but while panning the map with the mouse, the map flipped upside down.

https://i.postimg.cc/sggZ2pHh/image.png

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