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I'm in the camp that thinks celebrities take way too much mental space of the regular person on the internet. It distorts ones ability to differentiate as there are these huge gravity centers that everybody makes comparisons to, even subconsciously. If Scarlett Johansson wasn't famous and Sam Altman didn't offer her the job, everybody would have no trouble in recognizing the differences in the voice. Priming is an ex…
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I'm in the camp that thinks celebrities take way too much mental space of the regular person on the internet. It distorts ones ability to differentiate as there are these huge gravity centers that everybody makes comparisons to, even subconsciously. If Scarlett Johansson wasn't famous and Sam Altman didn't offer her the job, everybody would have no trouble in recognizing the differences in the voice. Priming is an ex…
you're being a bit misleading here by implying that humans have perfect voice recognition to begin with. Try to go to a foreign language and figure out the difference between 10 famous voices. Odds are at least half of them will blend to you. Becuase you do not spend everyday listening to that language. Now try and find a person who has a similar voice to your parent, then ask 10 random people to see if they can tell…
The whole point I made was that it was not her "likeness". Except in the way that the voice of any young woman speaking clearly resembles the voice of any other young woman speaking clearly, because I would argue that if you took 10 random young women's voices who speak clearly (say, 10 voice actresses) and listened to them all together, you wouldn't be able to distinguish them much either.
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What legal rights? TIL voice imitators are criminals. /s
> TIL voice imitators are criminals. /s First off, this reddit speak needs to go in a fire and die. Seriously, stop typing like this, nobody likes it. Secondly, yes voice imitators CAN be criminals. If they attempt to or allude to being the real deal. You can't get on a phone interview with the news and say you're Barack Obama, even if your impression is really good. Yes, that's illegal and has been since before AI o…
Which is not the case in discussion, there is no impersonation.
> First off, this reddit speak needs to go in a fire and die.
Are you ok? I think you should calm down before posting.
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I think the answer, counterintuitively, is to make these AI tools more open and accessible. As long as they're restricted or regulated or inaccessible people will continue to think of videos and recordings as not fakeable. But make voice cloning something easy and fun to do with a $1 app, let the teens have their prank call fun and pretty soon it should work its way into the public consciousness. I had my 70 year mot…
This is idealistic. People still haven't fully learned that images can be photoshopped in its twenty years of its existence. (Deep)faked porn is still harmful which is why it's a crime. Worse, there isn't an attitude of default skepticism in many areas/cultures. If a person is suspected of violating the moral code the priority will be punishment and reinforcing that such behavior isn't acceptable. Whether or not the…
I also however don’t believe that deepfaked porn is actually harmful. People are already imagining people naked, and it’s been easy to photoshop a nude for 15 years. A talented artist was needed 200 years ago. Allowing this (admittedly rude and disrespectful) act to be done with less skill changes very little.
So, do we "solve" this by impersonating a voice from a very litigious company? Let's say we clone Micky Mouse's voice to say some blasphemous things. Does that bring the full weight of Disney down on this? Will that force a change? Would it be a good change?
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you're being a bit misleading here by implying that humans have perfect voice recognition to begin with. Try to go to a foreign language and figure out the difference between 10 famous voices. Odds are at least half of them will blend to you. Becuase you do not spend everyday listening to that language. Now try and find a person who has a similar voice to your parent, then ask 10 random people to see if they can tell…
I googled "Ford v. Milton" and found something regarding the "slayer's rule", which is unlikely to be what you were referring to... The whole point I made was that it was not her "likeness". Except in the way that the voice of any young woman speaking clearly resembles the voice of any other young woman speaking clearly, because I would argue that if you took 10 random young women's voices who speak clearly (say, 10…
>a United States Court of Appeals case in which Bette Midler sought remedy against Ford Motor Company for a series of commercials in the 1980s which used a Midler impersonator. The case brought into question if a unique feature, such as a voice, can distinguish someone and thus must be authorized for impersonation.
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It's definitely his voice. Either way, why can't they hire a fucking voice actor instead of using this text to speech crap?
Why couldn't the fraudulent scammer be "less fraudulent" by paying a person to rip off his voice instead of having an ML model do it? You realize that makes no sense, right?
It's really shitty that they ripped off his voice using AI. In addition, I dislike the trend of using text-to-speech for YouTube videos in general.
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You are right. Even if I think elections don't matter there was one instance where it happened and the outcome actually mattered. The Brexit vote. But even there I don't think it's a huge difference if politicians are lying themselves or they do it with the use of AI. As long as it's an open technology the game is still fair.
> As long as it's an open technology the game is still fair. I don't necessarily agree because money has a lot to do with it. In theory, anyone can use AI for evil. In practice, only the richest can inflict damage. It's a matter of scale. That's why me killing someone is pretty bad, but me building a Nuclear Warhead is much worse. Luckily I don't have the power to build a Nuclear Warhead. Now anybody with enough mone…
That's always been true for every technology ever. Even nuclear warheads you mentioned. They are not controlled by poor people. Even hacking that was seen as sort of equalizer is way more dangerous in hands of states that can hire whole armies of hackers.
I want to ask and answer two of my own questions here: 1. Why clone Jeff's voice? When I was messing with stable diffusion using Automatic1111's interface, I noticed it came with a big list of artists to add to the prompt to stylize the image in some way. There was a big row in the media about ai art reproducing artists work and many artists came forward feeling it was a personal attack. But... I mean the truth is mo…
If someone cloned both Shaq's voice and Jeff's, and used them to endorse sneakers - I think it's a fair assumption that Shaq would see this as a business risk, and Jeff .. I'm going to go out on a limb, and assume he'd probably find it hilarious. Using Jeff's voice for sneakers would be more akin to your example of finding a midwestern voice with a useful corpus. Using Shaq's would be a much more obviously targeted appropriation.
What we're looking at here appears to be exactly this scenario, except this is Jeff's niche, not Shaq's. Using Shaq's voice for SBCs and related products would feel quite absurd - using Jeff's feels like a much more obviously targeted appropriation.
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> TIL voice imitators are criminals. /s First off, this reddit speak needs to go in a fire and die. Seriously, stop typing like this, nobody likes it. Secondly, yes voice imitators CAN be criminals. If they attempt to or allude to being the real deal. You can't get on a phone interview with the news and say you're Barack Obama, even if your impression is really good. Yes, that's illegal and has been since before AI o…
> Secondly, yes voice imitators CAN be criminals. Which is not the case in discussion, there is no impersonation. > First off, this reddit speak needs to go in a fire and die. Are you ok? I think you should calm down before posting.