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Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

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Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

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Post by anovikov »

It will produce annually, about as much electricity as UK produces now from solar. Which is installed at a much faster clip than these two sad reactors are built, even if UK is one of the worst countries for solar in the civilised world due to expensive land and terrible weather.

What's even the point? Maybe this reactor is a live testament to the observation that "any new nuclear starting construction today will be obsolete before it's completed, due to competition from renewables"? It's been started almost 10 years ago and it seems to be already there.

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#12

Post by defrost »

blitzar wrote: post #5
dvh wrote: post #4

What would be equivalent solar/wind installed power?

Dogger Bank Wind Farm

    Each phase will have an installed generation capacity of 1.2GW and represents a multi-billion pound investment. Combined, they will have an installed capacity of 3.6GW and will be capable of powering up to 6 million homes annually.
~ https://doggerbank.com/

Sounds about right in scale .. how many homes in the UK in total?

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#13

Post by Ekaros »

anovikov wrote: post #11

It will produce annually, about as much electricity as UK produces now from solar. Which is installed at a much faster clip than these two sad reactors are built, even if UK is one of the worst countries for solar in the civilised world due to expensive land and terrible weather. What's even the point? Maybe this reactor is a live testament to the observation that "any new nuclear starting construction today will be…

That the energy is produced during night, winter and heavily overcast times...

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#14

Post by anovikov »

Ekaros wrote: post #13
anovikov wrote: post #11

It will produce annually, about as much electricity as UK produces now from solar. Which is installed at a much faster clip than these two sad reactors are built, even if UK is one of the worst countries for solar in the civilised world due to expensive land and terrible weather. What's even the point? Maybe this reactor is a live testament to the observation that "any new nuclear starting construction today will be…

That the energy is produced during night, winter and heavily overcast times...

There is storage for that, which is now finally, available, inexpensive and safe. Plus, it's long since proven that with moderate losses, renewable electricity system that combines solar, wind, and hydro, does not need any storage at all, or very moderate amounts of storage to achieve no or almost no losses.

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#15

Post by lostlogin »

snalty wrote: post #8
roenxi wrote: post #3

> As the cost of Hinkley Point has increased, the backers have had to provide more funding. The souring of relations between Britain and China saw CGN stop providing any more money, leaving EDF to fund the shortfall. EDF has called upon the UK government to help out with the escalating cost but it has refused. EDF was fully nationalised in 2023, leaving the French taxpayer to pick up the tab for the cost overruns. Th…

It's about time our national infrastructure benefitted from foreign taxpayer money, considering how often it's been the other way around! Especially with the railways.

I don’t understand this comment - could you explain why?

Do other countries benefit from UK railways?

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#16

Post by lostlogin »

defrost wrote: post #12
blitzar wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dogger Bank Wind Farm

Each phase will have an installed generation capacity of 1.2GW and represents a multi-billion pound investment. Combined, they will have an installed capacity of 3.6GW and will be capable of powering up to 6 million homes annually. ~ https://doggerbank.com/ Sounds about right in scale .. how many homes in the UK in total?

> how many homes in the UK in total?

About 25 million it seems.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/378391/uk-england-housin...

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#17

Post by dageshi »

anovikov wrote: post #14
Ekaros wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That the energy is produced during night, winter and heavily overcast times...

There is storage for that, which is now finally, available, inexpensive and safe. Plus, it's long since proven that with moderate losses, renewable electricity system that combines solar, wind, and hydro, does not need any storage at all, or very moderate amounts of storage to achieve no or almost no losses.

Is there? What storage?

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#18

Post by the_mitsuhiko »

dageshi wrote: post #17
anovikov wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is storage for that, which is now finally, available, inexpensive and safe. Plus, it's long since proven that with moderate losses, renewable electricity system that combines solar, wind, and hydro, does not need any storage at all, or very moderate amounts of storage to achieve no or almost no losses.

Is there? What storage?

Batteries?

Re: Hinkley Point C: Building Britain's first nuclear reactor in 30 years

#20

Post by griffzhowl »

lostlogin wrote: post #15
snalty wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's about time our national infrastructure benefitted from foreign taxpayer money, considering how often it's been the other way around! Especially with the railways.

I don’t understand this comment - could you explain why? Do other countries benefit from UK railways?

Privatization of UK rail services meant that they were given out on government tenders to "private" companies, and a few of these companies that won the tenders are owned by foreign govts. Netherlands is one I believe, maybe France too.
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