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Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

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Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

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post #22

Locked iPhone owned by law enforcement target will accept remote firmware push from trusted device?

iOS restore doesn't trust anything; that's why you need an internet connection to do it. This proxies the internet connection.

https://support.apple.com/guide/security/secure-software-upd...

Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

#52
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a chance. iOS installs are cryptographically bound to the hardware itself installed on. It’s not possible to get an iPhone to boot an iOS install without an Apple server providing that cryptographic binding.

Well, one will observe that I said "off grid," because I was acutely aware of the desire for them to approve OS reinstalls I know, "but muh sekurity" and all that, but when the grandkids find an antique iPhone 16 in a barn somewhere, and want to install an iOS image upon it to see how things were in the old-times, I want that to be technically possible even after Apple shuts down the old gatekeeping servers

That's not possible because the requirement is built into the ROM. They'd have to release the keys and then you could emulate it.

Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

#53
post #35

This is presumably in preparation for removing USB-C next year?

I think a big part of the reason (maybe the only reason?) they went to USB-C is because they were legally compelled to by European regulations, not sure if they can then about-face on that just by removing the port.

The regulation doesn't require having a port I believe. Just that if there is a port, it's USBC.

Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a big part of the reason (maybe the only reason?) they went to USB-C is because they were legally compelled to by European regulations, not sure if they can then about-face on that just by removing the port.

The regulation doesn't require having a port I believe. Just that if there is a port, it's USBC.

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Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

#56

I've never heard of a "bricked" iPhone. I didn't think you could flash its firmware outside of official methods so how exactly would you brick it?

You can always have something (e.g. overheat, battery failure, cosmic ray, …) go wrong during an "official method" and leave it in a bad state.

Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

#57
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I presume you didn't follow the link I pointed to, which for sure points an .apk URL Now, if you're trying to be extra cute by saying "react native is a webpage with more steps," I'm not trying to have that fight, but I can assure you with 100% confidence that Joplin's apk loads without Internet connectivity, making it not meet my definition of "a web app"

I did in fact follow the link. I actually went further than you, all the way to the GitHub, where I saw that it was actually just a web app. All TS. And you can 100% load PWAs offline, which might be slightly more progressive than your idea of a web app, but I hope not overly so.

Wow, you have completely missed the parent poster's point!

Whether or not the specific app used as an example happens to be a webapp holds no relevance to what he was saying overall.

Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

#58

As a former hardware engineer, if it can be restored wirelessly or otherwise, it's not a brick yet. Keep trying, you'll get there! ;)

I don't think I've ever truly "bricked" a iPhone, or got one to the point it CAN'T be put DFU mode and restored. Cydia tweaks made it sound like one wrong move could render your device permanently unusable, at most it was a inconvenience.

Re: Bricked iPhone 16 Can Be Restored Wirelessly Using Another iPhone

#59
post #6

Will this not increase the economic value of stealing iPhones? Right now, in India, iPhone sales compete with used iPhones. With an option to unbrick phones, what methods are preventing a new market of “Chor-Bazaar for iPhones” (market for stolen iPhones)?

Bricked as in doesn’t boot the OS, not bricked as in unable to be activated.

Then it's not a brick.

Why is the term "bricked" in the first place?

Because of the utterly dead properties of a brick. The whole point was a visceral image of just how not remotely recoverable under any circumstances, vs merely a little extra effort can recover.

An unformatted empty computer with no os is not a brick in the same way a cd player with no cd inserted is not a brick. It's still fully functional.

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