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They stole my voice with AI

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Post by throwaway314155 »

vkou wrote: post #179
ConorSheehan1 wrote: post #93

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Doesn't this have an obvious edge case for every singer from now on though? If your voice is cloned before you become a singer of renown you have no protection.

Which is precisely why film producers are trying to get the power to do this to their actors. They aren't going to use AI to have Tom Cruise in their film. He won't sign these rights away. But they sure as hell want to have the next Tom Cruise sign those rights away as a condition for being hired to be Random Bystander #4 in a straight-to-streaming C-film. Then, once he becomes successful and famous, they won't have…

Didn't SAG successfully negotiate better terms with regard to AI imitation after the recent strike?

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Post by valval »

ryzvonusef wrote: post #135

Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…

You’d simply make such things highly illegal. No matter how I spin it in my head, there’s nothing particularly scary about this, like there isn’t about identity theft or any other crime, in reality.

Even if blasphemy is illegal in your country, people would probably agree that falsely accusing someone of blasphemy is also wrong.

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Post by thfuran »

ambicapter wrote: post #290
thfuran wrote: post #265

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Training seems likely to cut down on accidental shootings, but not so much on the deliberate ones.

It seems like tons of toddler are accidentally firing guns as well in America, so training probably won't help there.

Training people to lock up their damn guns would.

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Post by Filligree »

archagon wrote: post #120
antimemetics wrote: post #110

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She wrote a strongly worded tweet and people outraged for 0.03 ms and moved on to the next thing.

They moved on because OpenAI immediately removed the voice.

They removed a voice. The one that was removed didn’t sound much like her, but I guess it was the closest.

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Post by wpm »

latexr wrote: post #178
BurningFrog wrote: post #168

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We've had Photoshop for decades, and I still see pictures everywhere.

Again this tired argument. Photoshop requires skill and time. AI generation takes a few seconds of typing some words. The scale is not comparable.

And let’s not pretend image generation AI isn’t already in a state where it can pump out convincing slop. Facebook is full of it.

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Post by datavirtue »

pjc50 wrote: post #193
kmlx wrote: post #162

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> what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? > My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs in your case the problem is not AI, it’s your country.

The US equivalent is much less labour intensive than a lynch mob: it's mass shooters radicalized by things they've read on the internet. Or https://www.npr.org/2024/09/19/nx-s1-5114047/springfield-ohi... , where repeating racial libel causes a public safety problem. While this kind of incitement in no way requires AI, it's certainly something that's easier to do when you can fake evidence. See also https://www.bbc.co…

People don't shoot up crowds because of something they read on the internet. They do it because they are done with life. Everything after that is retrospective reasoning.

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Post by wruza »

the_gorilla wrote: post #97
wruza wrote: post #92

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what theft even means any more They dragged the term through different phases, but that’s just projection of will. Theft is undefined for objects with .copy() interface. It’s still there when you look at it. People have to adjust expectations, not laws. Computers replaced computers, now voice acting replaces voice actors. Your popularity doesn’t mean anything really and wouldn’t it be unfair if only popular could spa…

> Theft is undefined for objects with .copy() interface. > Computers replaced computers, now voice acting replaces voice actors. It's incredible what web development does to someone's ability to communicate ideas.

Or understand ideas. We all web develop sometimes and as the follow up shows, it’s actually your share of web developness in action ;)

On a serious note, please refrain from using “webdev makes dumb” theme here. It’s a beaten cliche that does nothing good to any forum. Have a nice day!

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Post by giraffe_lady »

voiceblue wrote: post #288
giraffe_lady wrote: post #90

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That's even worse imo. There's a reason nearly every major world belief system includes a proscription against necromancy and this is exactly what they mean. The living should not speak with the mouths of the dead.

It seems more likely that necrophilia was a major problem (compared to today), given how the Egyptians handled it and stories like Botan Dōrō. Very strange that you’re saying cloning voices with AI is “exactly what they mean”…?

I think the strictly anthropological view is that it's because of the political and social power you accrue if you can convince people the ancestors are on your side. I'm sure there are several reasons though and I accept that one as likely part of it also.

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Post by flembat »

kmlx wrote: post #162
ryzvonusef wrote: post #135

Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…

> what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? > My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs in your case the problem is not AI, it’s your country.

An individual is not responsible for the culture or government in the country they live in.

In the UK a government was just elected with a historical absolute majority by only ten million people, and now first time offenders are being sent to prison for making stupid offensive statements online.

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