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Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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I've run Nextcloud for almost 3 years now via docker on a vps , it hosts my contacts, calendars and files. There is a apache reverse proxy in front of it, and a postgresql-database in the back. Not once had I any serious issues updating when pulling new updated images. Occasionally it whines about missing indices, but that is easily fixed using the occ command line tool. The clients real IP is forwarded by the proxy.…

I have also found that if you stick to the core functionality it works fine. As soon as I started to add apps from the store it starts to be a pain. An upgrade comes out and you’re stuck on that version until they all update, OR you update not realizing and lose the functionality for some time. Since I self-host a bunch of apps, it made more sense to use different apps dedicated to those features, like Miniflux or Na…

You haven't necessarily gained anything by going to managing standalone apps individually, though. You've removed the unifying layer, but you're now having to keep up with the app versions and upgrade them individually by hand instead of letting the unifying layer handle it.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Just want to say it's times like these I really appreciate the HN community.

The NextCloud site makes it all look great and probably easier than some parts of my current DIY strategy, but reading here I think I'll stick to said strategy.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

Nextcloud's "internals are a shitshow" because Docker's networking stack prevents it from getting the IP of the calling client? That's an unreasonable take. Why single out Nextcloud here?

This is a Nextcloud issue, in the way it forwards headers. See https://help.nextcloud.com/t/how-to-get-the-real-ips-in-logs... for the long thread

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Nextcloud ate my data on a single user installation with no fancy settings turned on, with no upgrades attempted. The sync client on desktop said it was fully synced. Only 200GB of 800GB was on the machine. It’s some of the worst software I have ever used. It’s the pentagon house with the inverted roof built with the two-clawed hammer that eevee described.

I had a similar experience with ownCloud. Regularly, file uploads were timing out, leaving the database in an inconsistent state (apparently), which then later caused the files to be deleted on my desktop where the files were coming from. I'm still not sure why I put up so long with it. It was a slow mess, especially on the single-board computer I ran it on, and SyncThing was a breeze compared to it, with no data los…

I ultimately moved to Syncthing too. It requires understanding how it works, but once you do it is wonderful.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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post #98

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

Nextcloud ate my data on a single user installation with no fancy settings turned on, with no upgrades attempted. The sync client on desktop said it was fully synced. Only 200GB of 800GB was on the machine. It’s some of the worst software I have ever used. It’s the pentagon house with the inverted roof built with the two-clawed hammer that eevee described.

> The sync client on desktop said it was fully synced. Only 200GB of 800GB was on the machine.

Did you read the manual? It is recommended for such size to do the first sync using rsync (or similar) followed by the CLI command to build the files database.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

The insane thing when I tried to update Nextcloud, was that it kept timing out the download because it was too slow, and then required me to delete the upgrade in progress file in order to try again...

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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> it wants to do everything and does none well I can't speak to the other points you made because this has always stopped me from investing in it. What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative, but every time I've installed it (3-4 times at this point) I'm quickly overwhelmed by the quantity of stuff it includes and by how complicated actually setting up the Docs replacement was (at the time the recomm…

> What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative Try Etherpad ( https://etherpad.org/ ) > I ended up going with Seafile for file backups and have been very happy with it I went through probably dozens of solutions and ended up with Syncthing for synchronization of data (it requires understanding how it works but once you do (usually an eureka kind of moment) this is a very powerful system. For me using…

>> What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative > Try Etherpad (https://etherpad.org/)

He should better use OnlyOffice, Collabora or Cryptpad office suite. The Cryptpad server is the only one which is not a nightmare to install and setup.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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I originally wanted to do this but the CVE history is a bit too colorful for something I’d want to trust as a “cloud replacement”: https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvekey.cgi?keyword=nextcloud A common misconception IMO is that running and owning your own infrastructure is somehow more secure. To that I lol, and I’m confident that the thousands of AWS/GCP/Azure/iCloud security engineers are all doing a more thorough job…

It's written in PHP, the most insecure web language on the planet.

This is a very very old opinion, and not true for years.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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I ran OwnCloud for a while, until that project died. I liked that it focused on file sharing/syncing only. Reluctantly migrated to NextCloud and it's bloated beyond belief. It works though, and I've been too lazy to look into alternatives.

There’s OCIS now, which is a very good alternative if you’re only looking for a file sync solution (without all the App platform aspects of Nextcloud)

Enterprise focused software written in a meme language. Not interesting.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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I started using Nextcloud first to have an alternative to big-tech in case Google locks me out of my account, and then it became my daily driver. It's fast, private, and has mature clients for all major desktop and mobile platforms. Together with OnlyOffice, it's a good-enough substitute for Google Docs Editors (the office suite) for non-collaborative editing. I love self-hosting but file storage is one thing that I…

How did you solve the fact that Hetzner's instances do not have Elasticsearch set up for full-text search?
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