I’m a small tech YouTuber and I’ve also had contact with Elecrow. As far as I know, employees (not just at Elecrow) receive rewards, promotions, or commissions when they secure long term partnerships and video collaborations with YouTubers. Perhaps someone thought it would be clever clone Jeffs voice since his channel is quite popular in this field. This certainly isn't great PR for Elecrow right now. I would also wonder if they will confess to that this was intentional...
They stole my voice with AI
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is your country US? Somehow I think it is.
Oh yes, the United States, founded on religious freedom, is the place where you get stoned in the street for blasphemy.
Try to say anything related to sex or sexual freedom in the US and they will immediately lynch you. Welcome to USAbad, a Puritanic republic.
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#263My aunt is (supposedly) in her 90s, having left the US for Ecuador 10 or so years ago. We've remained in regular contact via phone over the years. Recently we went more than a few months without speaking. She has/had two numbers; magic jack and google. When I tried to call her, the magic jack was no longer in service and google said something about "unavailable". I reached out to my cousin (my aunt's daughter) to inq…
Ask your cousin to visit her and video call you together?
Or go there for a weekend and check?
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#264Earlier quoted context omitted.
My specific fear is that if a picture of you next to your name is available online, that becomes part of the training set of a future model. Paranoically, I do not have any picture of myself available online. I could then trivially generate pictures or even videos of you e.g. by knowing your name. Of course that's just an example but I do think that's where we are headed and so the concept of "trust" will change a lo…
Do you have a state driver’s license? If so, then chances are data brokers have your photo from that. https://www.dallasnews.com/news/watchdog/2021/03/19/its-mind...
I am not from the US so no. And when I did visit the US, I was young enough not to have to give my fingerprints at the airports.
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America also has laws against taking guns into theaters and indiscriminately shooting people, once you have easy access to guns the gun becomes a potential solution to problems. Maybe Switzerland just has less problems where that potential solution appeals to people.
I'd say that the key difference is that Switzerland has compulsory military service in which you're taught how to operate a weapon properly. Therefore, everyone that has one has gone through months of training. Vs the US, where there are loopholes that you can use to avoid even a basic background check, and then use it for the very first time to shoot someone.
Training seems likely to cut down on accidental shootings, but not so much on the deliberate ones.
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I'm in the camp that thinks celebrities take way too much mental space of the regular person on the internet. It distorts ones ability to differentiate as there are these huge gravity centers that everybody makes comparisons to, even subconsciously. If Scarlett Johansson wasn't famous and Sam Altman didn't offer her the job, everybody would have no trouble in recognizing the differences in the voice.
Priming is an extraordinarily powerful cognitive bias.
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? > My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs in your case the problem is not AI, it’s your country.
The US equivalent is much less labour intensive than a lynch mob: it's mass shooters radicalized by things they've read on the internet. Or https://www.npr.org/2024/09/19/nx-s1-5114047/springfield-ohi... , where repeating racial libel causes a public safety problem. While this kind of incitement in no way requires AI, it's certainly something that's easier to do when you can fake evidence. See also https://www.bbc.co…
Yes, but after the invention of radio and television we already enabled mass indoctrination and mass brainwashing. The internet is more refined but the same principle.
The solution is not to ban technology (it's impossible), but to create a more decentralised society where the majority of voters, which is easily brainwashed, doesn't get to dictate the life of the minority. We need to destroy and dismantle all the gigantic entities that ruin our life for the advantage of the few, whether they are the government or corporations ruled by billionaires controlling the government.
We also need to create a better society with less mental illness, where people are not depressed by how unfair life is that they go on and kill kids in school - but I believe if we reduce large societal inequality this will sort itself out over time.
Parents in my circle are already banning social medias for their kids until they're adults - so over time we'll evolve to get better at ignoring all the crap we get exposed to.
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#268Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? > My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs in your case the problem is not AI, it’s your country.
The problem is AI. What if you post video of a politician eating babies, and that causes some nutjob to kill that politician? Sure, distrust everything digital, but what if only evidence of someone doing something wrong is digital?
Becoming famous always had its risks because of mentally ill people targeting you.
Nothing new.
The trick is being rich without being famous!
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#269Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
This is nothing to do with AI but with intolerance of a certain religion. That religion is killing a lot in my country and many others too, but both the governments (national and supranational) and corporations censor any criticism of it. Even here on HN I got posts and accounts removed by the moderation for the slightest hint of criticism against it, and fully expected a downvoting mob by writing this comment. Sadly…
If you were in the US and someone were to make a deepfake of you saying a racial slur, do you think you'd fair better than if you were a blasphemer in a Sharia country?
The religion isn't the (whole) issue here, this situation can apply in the secular West just as easily. The punishment won't be death, but it can still ruin people's lives. A fake pedophilia accusation comes to mind, where even if proven innocent you'll still be royally fucked for the rest of your life unless you spend considerable expense and effort.
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Well, then target dead people. Find someone who died 6 months ago, have AI make them a blasphemer, have the sect look for dead people. After the third or fourth time, they'll stop. Not because they want to stop, but because they don't trust this being another prank by Mullah Achmed the Fool.
Just like how you are the traffic, you are also the mob Mobs are not formal organisations with leadership and membership dues. Mobs are general everyday people who are sick and tird of this miserable life and need an excuse to rabble and rouse. So in this case, fake dead person's blasphemy will only be channeled towards their family members, mobs just need an excuse to get crazy. AI is not what causes mobs, it just h…
In every group there are leaders (even informal ones, like that woman that shares nonstop all the bullshit to her 347 facebook friends).
Make them into fools.
- Stone the blasphemer!
- Who? The one that died las year? The one that died in the war in '94? The one that left 4 years ago? Don't you have anything better to do other than fooling yourself and spreading more rumors?
Doesn't make it any less dangerous while the mass is being vaccinated against bullshitters.