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Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by lolinder »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

> it wants to do everything and does none well

I can't speak to the other points you made because this has always stopped me from investing in it. What I need in my stack is a focused Google Docs alternative, but every time I've installed it (3-4 times at this point) I'm quickly overwhelmed by the quantity of stuff it includes and by how complicated actually setting up the Docs replacement was (at the time the recommendation was to install Collabora and link it up with Nextcloud, which I never could get working).

What I did see out of the box was a slow and bloated web portal, a bad calendar, a bad video conferencing app, a file backup solution, and a terrifying app store filled with add-ons that may or may not be maintained. Oh, and now it looks like they have an AI assistant?

I'm honestly relieved to see this here and know it's not just me. I ended up going with Seafile for file backups and have been very happy with it, though I'd still love to find a focused collaboration tool I can run.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

#102

Post by n3storm »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

Between a couple of initial versions after fork there where a couple of bumpy upgrades, but last 4 years have been smooth

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

#103

Post by boramalper »

MarcusE1W wrote: post #68
boramalper wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Files are files so you can download them to your computer and upload them to the new provider. Unfortunately I am not aware of any direct provider-to-provider sync. Application data depends on the app. For example, Notes [0] save your notes as Markdown files so you can move them (along with your files) wherever you want. However, News [1] don't and don't have export/import features at the moment either [2]. Nextcloud…

You can share folders between nextcloud instances and copy from one to another. No download needed.

TIL, thank you!

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

#104

Post by sneak »

preya2k wrote: post #61
nolok wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a self hosting afficionado, I feel like the perfect Google photo replacement doesn't exist yet. I have a synology nas and I use the synology photos app for auto uploading without loss of quality to my nas. Don't forget any picture or videos, deduplicate, figure out what you can safely delete from my phone,... All of that works great and is reliable. The synology photos app to watch your photos though, isn't very g…

You missed Ente ( https://ente.io )

I’ve been using Ente for a month and have been loving it so far. The lack of feature parity between iOS and desktop/Electron is a bit frustrating sometimes but workable as I always have a phone and iPad nearby. I reported a bug in the desktop app and they fixed it nearly instantly.

Looking forward to it receiving more polish, but it is workable in the interim. The public e2ee web gallery sharing feature is killer.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by TonyTrapp »

sneak wrote: post #98
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

Nextcloud ate my data on a single user installation with no fancy settings turned on, with no upgrades attempted. The sync client on desktop said it was fully synced. Only 200GB of 800GB was on the machine. It’s some of the worst software I have ever used. It’s the pentagon house with the inverted roof built with the two-clawed hammer that eevee described.

I had a similar experience with ownCloud. Regularly, file uploads were timing out, leaving the database in an inconsistent state (apparently), which then later caused the files to be deleted on my desktop where the files were coming from. I'm still not sure why I put up so long with it. It was a slow mess, especially on the single-board computer I ran it on, and SyncThing was a breeze compared to it, with no data loss at all (and much faster on the same SBC).

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

#106

Post by sneak »

shwouchk wrote: post #33
antman wrote: post #25

Lets not forget iPhone vendor lock in that specifically slows down or entirely closes background connections for all other vendors except Apple. So syncing files with Nextcloud or any other app except Apple cloud is an exercise in undocumented futility. You can put it as a front application and wait (if corporate hasn’t forced a screen turning off timeout)

Not sure how the apple rant is related to the post but; I use syncthing (via mobius sync) on my iphone and am quite happy with it. It seems to be OK with enough background syncs as it is, but to top it off i added a shortcut that keeps the app in the foreground while the phone is charging and im always up to date, pretty much instantly. Used to keep a couple hundred gb in sync that way (books, papers, org files, pass…

It always leaves a bad taste in my mouth when opportunists charge money for software they didn’t produce, simply by capitalizing on the fact that it’s difficult and annoying to sideload on iPhones.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

#107

Post by sneak »

Joeboy wrote: post #79
greatgib wrote: post #60

I like very much Next loud (the idea, the project, some part of the design like storing files flat easily backup able) but my major issue is with the file synchronisation with the Android. It totally does not work. If you try to send or synchronize just a few files it is mostly ok. But when trying to upload more than a few dozen files, things starts to not work well, like transfer being stuck, or the transfer complet…

File syncing also frustrates me, although I think it's working as intended. I would expect that if I update a synced file on my laptop, that should also automatically update it on the cloud. But it seems like there's an extra step where I have to go to the web ui and say that I want it to use the updated version. Also sharing has been very confusing, people keep thinking they've shared files they haven't. Maybe the p…

No, it’s just broken. It’s not you.

The software is unfit for purpose.

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

#108

Post by soraminazuki »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

Nextcloud's "internals are a shitshow" because Docker's networking stack prevents it from getting the IP of the calling client? That's an unreasonable take. Why single out Nextcloud here?

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by thepill »

BrandoElFollito wrote: post #93

Nextcloud is a nightmare. First if all, it wants to do everything and does none well (or better than specialized apps) Its internals are a shitshow - a question about getting the real IP of the calling client raised a 10 pages discussion where people said "it works" and other days "it does not". The "solution" required you to change a volatile setting within the docker container (and do it again when the container ch…

Running the snap-version since 5+ years without any problem

Re: Nextcloud: Open-Source Cloud Apps

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Post by boramalper »

sneak wrote: post #99
boramalper wrote: post #15

I started using Nextcloud first to have an alternative to big-tech in case Google locks me out of my account, and then it became my daily driver. It's fast, private, and has mature clients for all major desktop and mobile platforms. Together with OnlyOffice, it's a good-enough substitute for Google Docs Editors (the office suite) for non-collaborative editing. I love self-hosting but file storage is one thing that I…

The desktop clients are anything but “mature”, and the whole point of GDocs is collaborative editing. If you don’t want to collaborate, syncthing works fine and doesn’t need a server.

> the whole point of GDocs is collaborative editing

Strong disagree. Collaborative editing is one of the major points but not the only one. For me and I believe many others, being able to view and edit my documents in a web browser is a huge convenience.

(Speaking of collaborative editing, OnlyOffice too supports it. [0] However, you might need to setup a standalone “document server” [1] if you’ve a lot of collaborators.)

[0] https://helpcenter.onlyoffice.com/onlyoffice-editors/onlyoff...

[1] https://docs.hetzner.com/konsoleh/storage-share/faq/addition...

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