Elecrow seems a Chinese company, right? In that case, I don't expect any reply.
They stole my voice with AI
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Re: They stole my voice with AI
#202Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
One way that we technical folk can help prevent this is by purchasing a domain that we can call our own and then host a website that's very clear: "If my image or voice is used in a piece of digital media that is not linked here from this domain, it was not produced by me."
That, and cryptographic materials being used to sign stuff too.
I think that's possibly the best we can hope for from a technical perspective as well as waiting for the legal system to catch up.
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#203Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
I'm very sorry to say this but if you live in a country that is killing others for what they say, AI is probably not your biggest problem. And I don't believe an easy solution exists.
AI doesn't create problems, but AI certainly lowers the barriers and improves the 'quality' of the bait.
To explain for a more developed country context, the fakes that previously required skill in Photoshop and Audacity etc now is much simpler to implement with AI, allowing far more dipshits to create and share fake image/audio/video of someone they are pissed at during their lunch break on their phone.
That's way too quick, allowing people to shoot far too many arrows in a huff, before their reasonable brain has time to make them realise the consequences of their actions.
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#204Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
The only logical legal solution is that any content of you shared by you is legitimate one and all other content of you shared by somebody else is presumed non-authenthic and possibly fake.
What if a third party gains access to your social media account(s) and starts posting fake content from there?
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#205Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
One way that we technical folk can help prevent this is by purchasing a domain that we can call our own and then host a website that's very clear: "If my image or voice is used in a piece of digital media that is not linked here from this domain, it was not produced by me." That, and cryptographic materials being used to sign stuff too. I think that's possibly the best we can hope for from a technical perspective as…
But, but, it sounds so realistic! Listen kiddo, I dunno what 'cryptographic signatures' are, all I know is it sounds exactly like movedx saying they likes pineapple on pizza, and I know what I heard, sounds just like them, heard them dozen of times on TV, must have been an undercover journalist who exposed them, I say a person who likes pineapple on pizza is not welcome in my house whatever you say, now be gone!
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
One way that we technical folk can help prevent this is by purchasing a domain that we can call our own and then host a website that's very clear: "If my image or voice is used in a piece of digital media that is not linked here from this domain, it was not produced by me." That, and cryptographic materials being used to sign stuff too. I think that's possibly the best we can hope for from a technical perspective as…
But, but, it sounds so realistic ! Listen kiddo, I dunno what 'cryptographic signatures' are, all I know is it sounds exactly like movedx saying they likes pineapple on pizza, and I know what I heard, sounds just like them, heard them dozen of times on TV, must have been an undercover journalist who exposed them, I say a person who likes pineapple on pizza is not welcome in my house whatever you say, now be gone!
used the wrong example there, pineapple on pizza is a nice, delicious, refreshing topping
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#207(Obviously not a lawyer) Overlooking the AI part, isn't it a gross misrepresentation of Jeff's opinion or an unauthorized use of his image? By using his voice, it creates an implicit (fabricated) endorsement for their product and that feels very wrong. I'm sure laws exists to deal with these cases, since way before AI existed.
I’ve been thinking something similar recently. We’ve had people who are skilled voice mimics for ever, and they mostly exercise their skills for comedy/satire, and not for misrepresenting people’s opinions. IANAL either but I guess this is based on solid legal grounds, and misrepresenting people would be relatively easy to deal with legally. I guess the difference is democratisation - we’ve moved from very few people…
Just wait till someone starts auto-deepfaking their way out of college exams and job interviews.
Computers made graphic design approachable, but early adopters oversaturated the market before it stabilized. We’ll eventually figure out social norms and regulations for AI voice mimicry too, but there will be chaos first. Also, tech always moves faster than law. By the time courts catch up, this will be old news.
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? I've been contemplating writing an open letter to Dang to nuke my account. Because at this time you can likely deanonymize any user with a fair amount of comments. As long as you can correlate. You can certainly steal their language, even if not 100% accurate. It may be caution, but it isn't certain that we won't enter a dark forest and there's…
Yep, im sure lots of people have written a lot of random stuff on a lot of forums that should absolutely stay anonymous from gossip to family secrets to honesty about career/workplace and what not. If stylometric analysis runs on all comments on the internet then yeah. Bad things will happen, very very bad. I honestly think it should be at least illegal to do this kind of analysis because it'll be a treasure trove fo…
I wonder if in this timeline it would cause people to clean up their behavior online and only post things they are comfortable having being linked back to their real identity. Would have a chilling effect.
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
But, but, it sounds so realistic ! Listen kiddo, I dunno what 'cryptographic signatures' are, all I know is it sounds exactly like movedx saying they likes pineapple on pizza, and I know what I heard, sounds just like them, heard them dozen of times on TV, must have been an undercover journalist who exposed them, I say a person who likes pineapple on pizza is not welcome in my house whatever you say, now be gone!
used the wrong example there, pineapple on pizza is a nice, delicious, refreshing topping
Dude I am not going in give real examples, I live in a country with lynch mobs, remember?
But the point was, doesn't have to be lynch mobs, for developed countries, even 'lesser' consequences are stull terrifying.
Imagine everyone in your office giving you the stink eye after lunch and you being fired by HR 'at-will', and not knowing what exactly caused it, after all the day started so normally...
Re: They stole my voice with AI
#210I appreciate his pointer to precedent, but the truth is that while precedent is a start, we're going to need to do work with principles beyond precedent. When tech introduces unprecedented capabilities, we will either figure out how to draw boundaries within which it (among other features of society) works for people, not against them, or we'll let it lead us closer to a world in which the strong do what they will an…
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