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The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Looks perfectly clear to me.
> The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Was that ever so? According to Google Ngrams, "computer" was not really a term until, predictably, around 1950, even though the verb "compute" has been in use throughout history (it comes from the Latin "computare", apparently). That tells me "computer" was never a person, always a machine. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=compute%2…
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Looks perfectly clear to me.
> The original meaning of the word computer was a person who calculates. Was that ever so? According to Google Ngrams, "computer" was not really a term until, predictably, around 1950, even though the verb "compute" has been in use throughout history (it comes from the Latin "computare", apparently). That tells me "computer" was never a person, always a machine. https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=compute%2…
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)
The first reference in the Wikipedia article is to the original definition in the Oxford English Dictionary. Dating from 1613, it refers to a person.
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#134> I remember when OpenAI practically cloned Scarlett Johanssen's voice Except that never happened and the voice belonged to a completely different voice actress and Scarlett Johanssen had exactly zero right to prevent this person from making money as a voice actress lending it to AI. These complaints remind me a little bit of the story that a man complained that his photo was used to illustrate the article about how…
OprnAI says it never happened. They also took the voice down despite having it front and center at release time. And let's not forget that, if they didn't want people to think of Scarlett Johansson, then there would be no reason for their CEO to tweet "Her".
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#135Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous?
My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob.
And this was before AI was easy to access. You can say a lot of things about 'oh backward countries' but this will not stay there, this will spread. You can't just give a toddler a knife and then blame them for stabbing someone.
Has nothing to do with fame, with security, with copyright. This will get people killed. And we have no tools to control this.
https://x.com/search?q=blasphemy
I fear the future.
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California recently signed some legislation into effect. It’s a start. Congress is working on “No Artificial Intelligence Fake Replicas And Unauthorized Duplications Act.” Still in dev in the House, but has bipartisan support. Call your congressperson, ask them to co-sponsor and/or vote for it. https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news/california-bills-pro... https://salazar.house.gov/media/press-releases/salazar-intro…
Seems silly. What if I train my model on somebody who sounds like a somebody?
That it is copied or soundalike does not matter.
There are preceding legal cases against using impersonators in commercials that would apply here. It has happened to Tom Waits twice, and both times he sued and won: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6y1kc8Equk
The point is that Geerling is doing Youtube videos in the same field as the products this company is using his voice for. That makes it appear as if Geerling would be endorsing their products. If his voice had been used for, say, a nature documentary then people wouldn't have made the connection that it would have been him.
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#137(Obviously not a lawyer) Overlooking the AI part, isn't it a gross misrepresentation of Jeff's opinion or an unauthorized use of his image? By using his voice, it creates an implicit (fabricated) endorsement for their product and that feels very wrong. I'm sure laws exists to deal with these cases, since way before AI existed.
I’ve been thinking something similar recently.
We’ve had people who are skilled voice mimics for ever, and they mostly exercise their skills for comedy/satire, and not for misrepresenting people’s opinions. IANAL either but I guess this is based on solid legal grounds, and misrepresenting people would be relatively easy to deal with legally.
I guess the difference is democratisation - we’ve moved from very few people having this skill, to virtually anyone with a computer being able to do something similar. And so policing it will be much tougher, and likely beyond the means of someone like Jeff Geerling if it would require legal action to remedy.
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#138Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
The best we can hope for is that one personally avoids this for the first 5 years or so, and then it gets so widespread and easy that everyone will start doubting any videos they watch.
The same way it took social media like reddit a few years of "finding the culprit" / "name and shame" till mods figured out that many times the online mob gets it wrong and so now that is usually not allowed.
But many people will suffer this until laws get passed or it enters into common consciousness that a video is more likely to be fake than it is to be real. Might be more than 5 years though. And unfortunately laws usually only get passed after there's proven damage to some people from it.
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#139Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
I guess then, you should use AI to generate videos of all of the lynch mob leadership committing blasphemy and let them sort it out internally?
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#140Everyone has their own fears about AI, but my fears are especially chilling; what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous? My country is already has blasphemy lynching mobs based on the slightest perceived insult, real or imagined. They will mob you, lynch you, burn your corpse, then distribute sweets while you family hide and issue video messages denouncing you and forgiving the mob. And thi…
> what if AI was used to imitate a person saying something blasphemeous?