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They stole my voice with AI

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Re: They stole my voice with AI

#31

This whole argument rests on the absurd assumption that you can "own" a voice as if it's property. Does this mean people can own the patterns of vibration in air? It's completely nonsensical.

You can own your likeness. Does that mean you can own the photos that represent your face? Yes, yes you can. Why should you voice be different?

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#32
The idea that stolen voice tones are going to matter at all is one of the shortest sighted bits of AI investment - powered by Hollywood "never make anything new" thinking.

In about 5 years AI voices will be bespoke and more pleasant to listen to then any real human: they're not limited by vocal cord stress, can be altered at will, and can easily be calibrated by surveying user engagement.

Subtly tweaking voice output and monitoring engagement is going to be the way forward.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they should owe you for stealing your likeliness without your awareness to promote their products. This isn’t for satire purposes.

How much? This IP/copyright mentality is so 90s/2000s. Brings back memories of Napster. This Jeff Geerling which I have never heard of will cry until some Spotify of AI appears and pay him some pennies. Maybe he wants to be the James Hetfield/Metallica of this generation. This guy doesn't have 1/10000 of the relevance Metallica had at the time tho.

The danger of this shit can not be understated. Four years ago already there was a video where a deepfake of a president of the USA read a speech: In Event of Moon Disaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWLadJFI8Pk we of course know Nixon never gave this speech.

What happens when this "AI" is used to sway an election?

Last month a family got hospitalized after eating mushrooms they found and identified from a AI generated book. They didn't know it was AI generated. What happens when and this is not if, alas but when people die from this?

This shit is a danger to democracy and human lives. Napster was not.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they should owe you for stealing your likeliness without your awareness to promote their products. This isn’t for satire purposes.

How much? This IP/copyright mentality is so 90s/2000s. Brings back memories of Napster. This Jeff Geerling which I have never heard of will cry until some Spotify of AI appears and pay him some pennies. Maybe he wants to be the James Hetfield/Metallica of this generation. This guy doesn't have 1/10000 of the relevance Metallica had at the time tho.

> This Jeff Geerling which I have never heard of

This guy doesn't have 1/10000 of the relevance Metallica had at the time

It's weird that you seem to think a person's level of fame is relevant to a discussion of their legal rights.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#35

This whole argument rests on the absurd assumption that you can "own" a voice as if it's property. Does this mean people can own the patterns of vibration in air? It's completely nonsensical.

Intellectual property is, in fact, recognized by many legal jurisdictions. And audio works are typically included in that.

However, in this situation, the right of publicity is probably more applicable.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#36

This whole argument rests on the absurd assumption that you can "own" a voice as if it's property. Does this mean people can own the patterns of vibration in air? It's completely nonsensical.

"Why should child porn be illegal? It's just a pattern of bits on a computer!"

Describing a reasonable legal principle in terms of physics phenomena does not make it unreasonable.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much? This IP/copyright mentality is so 90s/2000s. Brings back memories of Napster. This Jeff Geerling which I have never heard of will cry until some Spotify of AI appears and pay him some pennies. Maybe he wants to be the James Hetfield/Metallica of this generation. This guy doesn't have 1/10000 of the relevance Metallica had at the time tho.

> This Jeff Geerling which I have never heard of This guy doesn't have 1/10000 of the relevance Metallica had at the time It's weird that you seem to think a person's level of fame is relevant to a discussion of their legal rights.

In terms of personality rights, it is relevant. Although I would think Jeff is enough of a public figure to make a case here

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#38

This whole argument rests on the absurd assumption that you can "own" a voice as if it's property. Does this mean people can own the patterns of vibration in air? It's completely nonsensical.

With enough of a "vibration pattern", it becomes a fingerprint.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#39
It’s the Wild West and will be for some time but I agree, they should have the decency to use only voices of the dear departed. The library should be open source and hosted on GitHub. the talking dead seems like a good name for it. Obviously we will have to put it to a vote among the living.

Re: They stole my voice with AI

#40

This whole argument rests on the absurd assumption that you can "own" a voice as if it's property. Does this mean people can own the patterns of vibration in air? It's completely nonsensical.

You can own your likeness. Does that mean you can own the photos that represent your face? Yes, yes you can. Why should you voice be different?

Easy: The air is free but the electromagnetic spectrum is regulated.

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