WP Engine is not WordPress

What WP Engine gives you is not WordPress, it’s something that they’ve chopped up, hacked, butchered to look like WordPress, but actually they’re giving you a cheap knock-off and charging you more for it.

Which is a more serious allegation, and trademark law would prevent them from calling it WordPress if they modified the software. It's pretty common in the open source community to insist forks use another name to prevent confusion.

Re: WP Engine is not WordPress

#6

Post by sgammon » Sun, Sep 22, 2024, 12:48 AM UTC

> WordPress is a content management system, and the content is sacred. Every change you make to every page, every post, is tracked in a revision system

I'm not sure I see how the absence of a revision tracking system rises to a violation of sacred principles.

Re: WP Engine is not WordPress

#7

Post by pluc » Sun, Sep 22, 2024, 12:49 AM UTC

I mean, yeah. Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing? Because an option exists to store every revision doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it for free. It is a costly feature. They're free to chop up WordPress as much as they like and monetize features that elsewhere are default. They're not hiding it and users can choose to go elsewhere. Otherwise every WordPress host would be the same, just hosting vanilla WordPresses... and while the WordPress people may not like it, ain't nothing wrong with it.

Re: WP Engine is not WordPress

#8

Post by sgammon » Sun, Sep 22, 2024, 12:49 AM UTC

sgammon wrote: post #6

> WordPress is a content management system, and the content is sacred. Every change you make to every page, every post, is tracked in a revision system I'm not sure I see how the absence of a revision tracking system rises to a violation of sacred principles.

You can also just turn it on by emailing support...

Re: WP Engine is not WordPress

#9

Post by tomphoolery » Sun, Sep 22, 2024, 12:51 AM UTC

pluc wrote: post #7

I mean, yeah. Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing? Because an option exists to store every revision doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it for free. It is a costly feature. They're free to chop up WordPress as much as they like and monetize features that elsewhere are default. They're not hiding it and users can choose to go elsewhere. Otherwise every WordPress host would be the same, just hosting vanill…

> while the WordPress people may not like it

hmm i wonder why... https://wordpress.com/wordpress-hosting/

always great to see devs sh1t on other devs under the premise of "this isn't right!!!" when in reality it's just affecting their bottom line. money makes the world go round!

Re: WP Engine is not WordPress

#10

Post by rgbrenner » Sun, Sep 22, 2024, 12:54 AM UTC

pluc wrote: post #7

I mean, yeah. Isn't that what they're supposed to be doing? Because an option exists to store every revision doesn't mean you necessarily have to do it for free. It is a costly feature. They're free to chop up WordPress as much as they like and monetize features that elsewhere are default. They're not hiding it and users can choose to go elsewhere. Otherwise every WordPress host would be the same, just hosting vanill…

You can chop up WordPress, because it's open source. But you cant chop it up and keep calling it the same thing. Only the vanilla WordPress gets to be called WordPress... because the project called WordPress has decided that the release they put out is what they want to attach their name to. Someone cant come along later, make a bunch of changes, and then attach someone elses name to it.. and then go around insisting that their version is the same thing.

Most large open source projects have a trademark policy that makes this explicit. Don't know if WP has one though.