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Forget ChatGPT: why researchers now run small AIs on their laptops

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An AI chip on laptop devices would be amazing!

It's pretty much happening already. Apple devices have MPS. Both new Intels and Snapdragon X have some form of NPU.

It would be great if any NPU that currently exists was any good at LLM acceleration, but they all have really bad memory bottlenecks.

Re: Forget ChatGPT: why researchers now run small AIs on their laptops

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post #15

What local models is everyone using? The last one I used was Llama 3.1 8B which was pretty good (I have an old laptop). Has there been any major development since then?

Nada to be honest. I keep trying every new model, and invariably go back to llama 8b.

Llama8b is the new mistral.

Re: Forget ChatGPT: why researchers now run small AIs on their laptops

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post #4

Summary: It's cheaper, safer for handling sensitive data, easier to reproduce results (only way to be 100% sure it's reproduce even, as "external" models can change anytime), higher degree of customization, no internet connectivity requirements, more efficient, more flexible.

An AI chip on laptop devices would be amazing!

First NPU arrived 7 years ago in an iPhone SoC. GPUs are also “AI” chips.

Local LLM community has been using Apple Silicon Mac GPUs to do inference.

I’m sure Apple Intelligence uses the NPU and maybe the GPU sometimes.

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Next year, devices equipped with AMD's Strix Halo APU will be available, capable of using ~96GB of VRAM across 4 relatively fast channels from a total of 128GB unified memory, along with a 50 TOPS NPU. This could partially serve as an alternative to the MacBook Pro models with M2/M3/M4 chips, featuring 128GB or 196GB unified memory. - https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-ai-max-395-to-feature-...

It will have around 250GB/s of bandwidth which makes it nearly unusable for 70b models. So the high amount of RAM doesn’t help with large models.

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> Microsoft used LLMs to write millions of short stories and textbooks in which one thing builds on another. The result of training on this text, Bubeck says, is a model that fits on a mobile phone but has the power of the initial 2022 version of ChatGPT. I thought training LLMs on content created by LLMs was ill-advised but this would suggest otherwise

> Microsoft used LLMs to write millions of short stories and textbooks

Millions? Where are they? Where are they used?

Re: Forget ChatGPT: why researchers now run small AIs on their laptops

#39
post #10

It's kinda funny how nowadays an AI with 8 billion parameters is something "small". Specially when just two years back entire racks were needed to run something giving way worst performance.

IDK, 8B-class quantized models run pretty fast on commodity laptops, with CPU-only inference. Thanks to the people who figured out quantization and reimplemented everything in C++, instead of academic-grade Python.

Re: Forget ChatGPT: why researchers now run small AIs on their laptops

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Next year, devices equipped with AMD's Strix Halo APU will be available, capable of using ~96GB of VRAM across 4 relatively fast channels from a total of 128GB unified memory, along with a 50 TOPS NPU. This could partially serve as an alternative to the MacBook Pro models with M2/M3/M4 chips, featuring 128GB or 196GB unified memory. - https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-ai-max-395-to-feature-...

It will have around 250GB/s of bandwidth which makes it nearly unusable for 70b models. So the high amount of RAM doesn’t help with large models.

Fast.

Large.

Cheap.

You may only pick two.

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