Well that also needs to be heavily vilified and taxed.
Ah yes we should all live in a gray bloc working in a gray factory until the end of time
Vilifying a d taxing any luxury not only is a ludicrous position, it will only make inequality worse. Its not like the 0.1% will renoujce to it, and taxes don't matter to them.
ICEs have a lot of advantages that make them much better suited than EVs to certain tasks (extreme climates and remote locations, for example). They will likely stick around for niche use cases (at least) for quite a long time. As for why Porsche is spending money on ICE engines...well, no one really buys a Porsche because it's a "practical car", do they?
> As for why Porsche is spending money on ICE engines...well, no one really buys a Porsche because it's a "practical car", do they? I don't know. I find my daily very practical: a Porsche Panamera MY2013, now nearing 125 000 miles and 12 y/o. Still under extended manufacturer warranty. I have it since more than five years now (bought it used). Next car is another used Panamera (probably a 2020 or something). Very swe…
Well, in a big city I wouldn't call a 5m long car that drinks 12 or more liters "practical". Also it's an expensive and high maintenance car even when functioning properly (I'd be scared of the bill for changing those tires or doing Porsche's maintenance...)
But, you said it: sweet, comfy, luxurious, funnier. Valid reasons, of course, but different :-)
Presumably as Porsche is not about efficient transportation; it is about emotion, driving as an experience, making a statement, etc. Chances are there will be - or, at least, Porsche appears to bet there will be - a sufficient number of well-heeled enthusiasts who prefer the sound, smell and vibration of an ICE to the quiet performance of an electric motor. I am really curious to see how this pans out in a generation…
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Why should something be heavily vilified and taxed simply because you personally dislike it?
Lol, I really want to see a 150-year old EURO6 200kw diesel engine coupled with a 150-year old 9-speed automatic dual-clutch allowing me to drive on the 150-year old roads for 4 liters per 100 km at German highway speeds. BTW, electric cars are older technology than ICE cars.
The main innovation in modern electric cars isn't just about swapping fuel with electricity, but eliminating all junk in between that wasted power only to overcome ICE inherent flaws.
More simple electronics aside, clutch, gearbox, then driveshaft are all gone, and they contributed to a huge waste of power, which burned a lot of fuel for nothing. This is so bad that where possible and economically feasible (trains and ships) they use mixed diesel-electric pairs with the diesel engine working as generator so that it would always run at maximum torque not being forced to start from zero rpm and not having its speed related with train and ship speed.
The electric engine is indeed older than internal combustion one, however what makes it a better option also for cars required modern development, especially in batteries and rare earth magnets which would have been unthinkable only a few decades ago.
> performance cars should have ICEs After driving a fast Tesla, stepping into an ICE performance car feels like going back to a steam engine. A very slow, unresponsive steam engine. When avid petrolheads try a fast EV and feel the instant torque it will be an epiphany for them. Only the most stubborn will stick with fossil cars.
I suppose you don't know how to drive a manual either :)
I drove stick for a couple of decades. They were fun at the time (except in traffic jams), but I'm no Luddite. I can enjoy being thrown back into my seat with roller coaster acceleration without the accompaniment of vroom vroom noises, exhaust, and shifting.
Many of the myths you are posting are busted here: https://www.carbonbrief.org/factcheck-21-misleading-myths-ab... The national grid in the UK was so fed up with people making claims about the grid capacity it also busted some too: https://www.nationalgrid.com/stories/journey-to-net-zero/ele... > The highest peak electricity demand in the UK in recent years was 62GW in 2002. Since then, the nation’s peak demand has f…
What that article doesn't address is the concurrent shift to electrify domestic heating. A worked analysis of the impacts can be found here: https://www.carboncommentary.com/blog/2022/2/11/how-much-ele...
It will take a long, long time to move to heat pumps for heating the majority of homes. Last time I looked into it I would have to change all the pipes and radiators in my home. Same with my mums house. The savings would have to be massive to offset the disruption and cost.
I think many of people here live in US and assume that it everywhere things look similar. in my European country electric infrastructure is not ready for electric cars and with current energy prices this makes no financial sense. I own plug in hybrid and I live in apartment meaning I have no possibility to charge at home. near me (about 10 min of walking there is public single phase allow charger with 2 plugs machine…
So spend on that infrastructure instead, or mandate it. Honestly, spending resources on anything ICEs (outside of special industries) in this day and age is just wrong.
Most of these claims are dramatically false. - Electric motors use low amounts of rare earth metals, or in some cases none. Batteries generally don't use them either. - Automotive batteries have been demonstrated as >90% recyclable, far better than most materials we consider "recyclable" today such as plastic - The electric grid has sufficient capacity to onboard millions of electric cars without issue, and will not…
I’m particularly interested in last three points. Do you mind to share some data? For instance, where one recycle a Tesla battery, say in Poland? I do not see to many chargers around and I believe the grid is not very modern here. Why do you think it can easily handle millions EVs? What about peak hours like nights? Do you think it will be env friendly, provided that majority of electricity in Poland is produced on c…
The battery can be recycled in Germany if Poland doesn't have the facility.
Why should something be heavily vilified and taxed simply because you personally dislike it?
Because it’s a dead-end tech that’s holding us back and destroying the place where we all live. If you insist on pursuing it for your own pleasure, knowing what we all know now, you may be a villain.