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At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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bamboozled wrote: post #79
JoeyBananas wrote: post #65

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If you ask engineers who work for Tesla to review the Tesla Cyber Truck, they will tell you it's genius and amazing in every way because they don't want to get fired and they are likely also Tesla shareholders. If you ask engineers who work for Toyota about the Tesla cyber truck, they have the expertise to identify all of the problems with the design and they are not going to get fired for telling you the truth. Who…

I disagree because western journalists are often from secular society where telling the truth is more acceptable and encouraged. You're certainly not going to get thrown off a building for reporting some facts. What happened to Salmon Rusdhie? He was almost murdered over publishing an image of the prophet. Look up Yasmine Mohammed, she's an ex-Muslim who constant experiences death threats for her beliefs, or lack of…

Your error is that you are thinking about journalism in idealistic terms, when in reality journalism does not operate on idealistic principals. Journalists are lying scoundrels who knowingly deceive people. They do this without any emotion in the same way that lion rips the guts out of a young gazelle. In their minds, it is OK to lie to cover up war crimes. It never occurs to them that people are going to take their word as the truth, because they do not care. They lie about everything because they are incompetent, craven, selfish, and so on. This is the mindset of a war criminal who commits genocide.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by JoeyBananas »

mopsi wrote: post #70
dunekid wrote: post #67

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Not really replying to the above comment, but Do we think Putin should have bombed Gaza? Atleast there would have been sanctions against the bombing entity. Their athletes could have been banned, unlike the ITF people who goes to Olympics after committing crimes against humanity in Gaza. The double standards are not just bad, they are literally evil, I must say.

The current war began with a surprise attack that included airlanding into a music festival, murdering as many as they could and kidnapping people like Shani Louk, a 22-year-old tattoo artist, who were brought into Gaza from the festival, tortured and murdered. She was last recorded on a pickup truck, lifeless, legs visibly broken, as local men spit on her and record that with their phones. A still from the video: ht…

I can think of multiple specific instances where the Israeli military killed children in Gaza, which are confirmed by humanitarian organizations on the ground as well as video/photographic evidence. But I will not name these specific victims here, because that would not prove anything. It'd be intellectually dishonest. Go read "The Two State Delusion" by Padraig O'Malley, or the ICC case by South Africa against Israel

https://libgen.is/search.php?req=Padraig+O%27Malley&column=a... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa%27s_genocide_case...

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by bamboozled »

JoeyBananas wrote: post #81
bamboozled wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree because western journalists are often from secular society where telling the truth is more acceptable and encouraged. You're certainly not going to get thrown off a building for reporting some facts. What happened to Salmon Rusdhie? He was almost murdered over publishing an image of the prophet. Look up Yasmine Mohammed, she's an ex-Muslim who constant experiences death threats for her beliefs, or lack of…

Your error is that you are thinking about journalism in idealistic terms, when in reality journalism does not operate on idealistic principals. Journalists are lying scoundrels who knowingly deceive people. They do this without any emotion in the same way that lion rips the guts out of a young gazelle. In their minds, it is OK to lie to cover up war crimes. It never occurs to them that people are going to take their…

Journalists are lying scoundrels who knowingly deceive people.

Such a silly generalization, I didn't bother reading the rest of the comment.

This conversation is over.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by JoeyBananas »

bamboozled wrote: post #83
JoeyBananas wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your error is that you are thinking about journalism in idealistic terms, when in reality journalism does not operate on idealistic principals. Journalists are lying scoundrels who knowingly deceive people. They do this without any emotion in the same way that lion rips the guts out of a young gazelle. In their minds, it is OK to lie to cover up war crimes. It never occurs to them that people are going to take their…

Journalists are lying scoundrels who knowingly deceive people. Such a silly generalization, I didn't bother reading the rest of the comment. This conversation is over.

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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by bamboozled »

dunekid wrote: post #68
bamboozled wrote: post #60

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At one point I heard it was 48k, so who knows what the "Gaza Health Ministry" really knows.

Do you think we should send independent investigators, and humanitarian institutions to do an assessment? Sure just wait for the Israeli investigation of their own crimes to finish, and in maybe a couple of decades, a few people can be let in for a couple of hours to verify the brutality.

Do you think there might be a chance the "Gaza Health Ministry", aka, Iran wouldn't be fudging these numbers to provoke an emotional response by people in the west? The same people who believe children are fine to be martyred and use them as suicide bombers or human shields?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by bamboozled »

dunekid wrote: post #69
bamboozled wrote: post #52

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_P... Not sure if you're confused, acting in bad faith, or just don't know what genocide is OR Israel is just really bad at doing genocide? Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were u…

>1200 innocent civilians is ok Please cite the sources for this maybe? The ITF personnel won't be counted as Civilians, correct? Even before adding the Hannibal directive death's, by ITF's own people, these figures are not correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80...

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by bamboozled »

JoeyBananas wrote: post #63
bamboozled wrote: post #9

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Would you prefer they bomb a house, school, or mosque, or some other place where they hangout with civilians to use then as shields? Because when they did that everyone was up in arms, and now they try a more targeted approach and they're "terrorists"...meanwhile Putin is basically trying to make a whole country freeze this year and I hardly anyone complains all calls him a terrorist, apparently, that's fine? Israel…

Gaza looks like the aftermath of a major WWII battle, and it has been that way for years because of an air/sea/land blockade that prevents efforts to rebuild. Not just the residential buildings are destroyed, but also water/energy infrastructure. Due to the demographics of Gaza, this mostly impacts women and children. So, it is undeniable that Israel bombed infrastructure knowing that it is mostly women and children…

Gaza looks like shit because the "government" spends all their aid money on weapons and tunnels. Not on education, infrastructure and hospitals.

The "government" in Gaza spend zero effort on diplomacy too, because it's a proxy government for Iran.

"I hate to say it to you but reality is a bitch"

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by bamboozled »

aguaviva wrote: post #78
bamboozled wrote: post #73

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What I hear is people hysterically screaming about how "Palestine" has a "right to defend itself" then I see a bunch of kids screaming "from the river to the sea" on Campus. I don't see anyone protest like that for Ukraine, or the Uighur population in China, do you know why? Because Iran is funding universities and creating useful idiots: https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/iran-finances-u-s-camp... So I mean, peop…

I don't see anyone protest like that for Ukraine, or the Uighur population in China, do you know why? Because of anything Iran is doing, no. But rather, and very simply because their own government (and to some extent their colleges directly, via their endowment funds) is/are supporting the genocide in Palestine, while at least doing something about the other 2. That, and because Palestine resonates with their social…

You provided zero refutations to that information except an opinion?

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by aguaviva »

bamboozled wrote: post #88
aguaviva wrote: post #78

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I don't see anyone protest like that for Ukraine, or the Uighur population in China, do you know why? Because of anything Iran is doing, no. But rather, and very simply because their own government (and to some extent their colleges directly, via their endowment funds) is/are supporting the genocide in Palestine, while at least doing something about the other 2. That, and because Palestine resonates with their social…

You provided zero refutations to that information except an opinion?

It wasn't an opinion, it was an observation.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by dunekid »

bamboozled wrote: post #86
dunekid wrote: post #69

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>1200 innocent civilians is ok Please cite the sources for this maybe? The ITF personnel won't be counted as Civilians, correct? Even before adding the Hannibal directive death's, by ITF's own people, these figures are not correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel%E2%80...

>The 7 October attacks on Israel killed 1,139 people, including 815 civilians.

From the linked wiki. Not 1200. This would be much clearer when the Hannnibal directive kills are excluded. Such a shame that the most moral Army would kill their own.

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