We know what you're doing • Hacker News Board

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by Karunamon » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:13 AM UTC

treetrouble wrote: post #29

Karunamon wrote: post #28

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The point isn't that it's uninteresting to you, the point is that it may very well be interesting to stalkers, bosses, insurance companies, thieves, exes, "lost" relatives, arsonists, mother stabbers, father rapers, litterbugs, jaywalkers, identity thieves, nosy neighbors, and other undesirables. It's a thought experiment. Along the lines of YOU DOLTS, YOU REALLY SHOULDN'T BE PUTTING ALL THIS STUFF OUT HERE!

Yes, I understand that. The fact is that people drink and do drugs. Smart people, stupid people. That's reality. This is a "thought experiment" that teaches cowardice, IMO

On a purely ideal level I agree with you (the fact that at any time someone has been fired from their job for expressing personal opinions on non-company time does not sit well with me..), but the reality of it is, how many of these people do you think know that their info is on this site and/or accessible to quite literally anyone in the world? Of the people that know that, how many of them do you think understand the implications of that openness?

This is why you lock down your privacy settings.

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by Killswitch » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:19 AM UTC

georgemcbay wrote: post #8

ffmmjj wrote: post #5

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It's kinda scary to see your own facebook profile being posted on HN out of nowhere... =\

Just to set any minds at ease after the initial shock: The link I posted is just a generic bad id link that ends up redirecting to your own Facebook profile if you are currently logged into Facebook. Anyone logged into Facebook will see their own profile. The link joering2 posted OTOH is actually to my Facebook profile. But: A) I don't really care (anything I put on my Facebook profile is assumed to be 1000% publical…

I don't want to sound gay or anything, but you're handsome... Oh and the guy who's neck your kissing looks okay too.

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by treetrouble » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:20 AM UTC

Karunamon wrote: post #31

treetrouble wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I understand that. The fact is that people drink and do drugs. Smart people, stupid people. That's reality. This is a "thought experiment" that teaches cowardice, IMO

On a purely ideal level I agree with you (the fact that at any time someone has been fired from their job for expressing personal opinions on non-company time does not sit well with me..), but the reality of it is, how many of these people do you think know that their info is on this site and/or accessible to quite literally anyone in the world? Of the people that know that, how many of them do you think understand t…

Yes, I understand the intention of that site and conventional thinking on the subject. Thank you for assisting in my description of an alternative

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by barbs » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:24 AM UTC

Reminds me of youropenbook, which doesn't exist anymore :(

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by skeletonjelly » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:24 AM UTC

jrochkind1 wrote: post #22

Until I read the comments I didn't get what this was supposed to be --- ghostery for the win, blocks Facebook Social Graph and Facebook Social Plugin.

Right but the data is still being collected via public postings on Facebook etc

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by stephen272 » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:29 AM UTC

should include twitter as well

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by gonehome » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:30 AM UTC

confluence wrote: post #19

A great example that should remind people that it's probably best to assume that everything they say or do online (offline as well) is now (and forevermore) public. Assume that anything you say or do has the ability to be seen by anyone and everyone around the globe instantly - without any methods of recourse. The genie is out of the bottle. Hence one should adapt one's own behaviour and act accordingly (that doesn't…

I've been saying this for a while too.

There's no such thing as online privacy - privacy is dead.

It's better that the default for most things online is public since any privacy setting is just an illusion of security. Of course there are some notable exceptions to this (encrypted backup services that encrypt locally before backup), but for the most part if it's online and at least some other people can see it - everyone can see it.

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by Jauny » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:37 AM UTC

georgemcbay wrote: post #3

I'm surprised there isn't a column for people who are reading Hacker News. This guy for example: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?=743264506

its me. what's happening? ohuhoh nevermind :) Got shocked lol

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by adrusi » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:42 AM UTC

gonehome wrote: post #37

confluence wrote: post #19

A great example that should remind people that it's probably best to assume that everything they say or do online (offline as well) is now (and forevermore) public. Assume that anything you say or do has the ability to be seen by anyone and everyone around the globe instantly - without any methods of recourse. The genie is out of the bottle. Hence one should adapt one's own behaviour and act accordingly (that doesn't…

I've been saying this for a while too. There's no such thing as online privacy - privacy is dead. It's better that the default for most things online is public since any privacy setting is just an illusion of security. Of course there are some notable exceptions to this (encrypted backup services that encrypt locally before backup), but for the most part if it's online and at least some other people can see it - ever…

using encryption it's completely possible to make any information exchange as secure as it can possibly be without accounting for humans on the other end leaking the information.

Re: We know what you're doing

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Post by iamdave » Tue, Jun 26, 2012, 3:48 AM UTC

You know what? Use that same GET method from the about page, mine for certain words, display analytics on a dashboard next to a stream and you've probably just put a few social media "consultants" out of work.

/dastardlyGrin