Want to make account, no idea whats wrong because of the app forbidding landscape mode. https://imgur.com/a/spFQ1md
Have you tried desktop to register your account?
We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
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Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like ESS ist their managed solution, which uses Synapse but with an admin UI. Thats at least how I understand it, because to "get" ESS you need to fill out a contact form. https://try.element.io/get-started
Ah, so I can get this free opensource decentralized solution if I pay a company to host it for me on their centralized server, got it. I mean i wouldnt have a problem paying one-time fee of around $100 if that would mean I can get that soft running locally for my groups, but I guess I am not the target potential customer group.
You can also host it yourself, but what ESS offers is a combination of multiple discrete services. You’re gonna have to host Synapse itself, the Matrix Authentication Service (for native OIDC), Element Call (which requires LiveKit) and Element Web.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#43So this is like slack and signal mashed together?
Matrix as a protocol, and synapse / element, the most common backend and client for the protocol (I believe), have existed for quite some time. Our co-op has been using synapse for about a year and a half now and I'm sure the majority of our members use Element as the client. Our managed hosting comes with an Element web deployment as well.
We used it as a drop in replacement for slack including automations etc. The bonus was we got, I can't remember the technical term but mirrors or duplicators for Instagram etc set up, so people can use the element app to message people on Instagram, Whatsapp, etc, if they'd like. I like it because I can message people without Instagram first trying to suck me in with Algo bs.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like ESS ist their managed solution, which uses Synapse but with an admin UI. Thats at least how I understand it, because to "get" ESS you need to fill out a contact form. https://try.element.io/get-started
Ah, so I can get this free opensource decentralized solution if I pay a company to host it for me on their centralized server, got it. I mean i wouldnt have a problem paying one-time fee of around $100 if that would mean I can get that soft running locally for my groups, but I guess I am not the target potential customer group.
It is free and opensource, but there are different parts to it if you selfhost. Synapse is the Matrix server backend, and Element is the UI (web/mobile app). [0]
ESS is a paid, fully managed service by the Element team for ease of use.
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Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#45We have lift-off but we're not making it past the lower atmosphere ...
Was the Android version flow-tested by anyone at all at element.io?
When I tried registering a new account, it did not accept my handle. I guessed this because the handle text was red.
But why it didn't like it I can't see because the little box with the error message is outside to the right of the screen (I guess there is a box because I see a little arrow on the right and I understand that this just a web view of something not originally designed for mobile/portrait).
Basically, if this was my ma or any of my non-techie friends, they would close the app now without ever registering.
After I login with my existing account and verify the device via my Linux client it asks me to enter a "recovery key or security phrase".
I enter my security phrase, I get a spinner, the spinner disappears, the 'Continue' button is grayed out. Nothing happens.
These are both flows that (a) a new user would see or (b) an existing user would see, immediately when using the app for the first time.
How is it possible they're broken like this?
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#46Not to rain on their parade, but as someone who used element X, gave up because of the bugs. Is currently using XMPP with conversation.im and dino.im. The later seems much more stable, offer OMEMO encryption that worked better. If you want more social media elements there is also movin.eu.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#47Why would any enterprise use e2e encryption?
In most juridictions and industries you must be able to audit internal and b2b communication.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#48So how exactly do I get ESS running on my TrueNAS? Cant seem to find straight answer on their page.
It is generally not a good idea to run web services on a file server.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#49We tried matrix and element a little while back and it had too many sharp corners. Now we use jabber. It also have some problems but we were able to workaround them. When we did our tests, messages would get dropped, arrive out of order, be impossible to decrypt, joining a room was slow (sometimes days), mobile notifications would be swallowed by the desktop client left running, webhook were hard... I don't want to s…
Personally, I don't think it's anything unfixable.
At least slow joins with large rooms got improvements last year or something.
E2EE is nowadays on by default, and I haven't had any decryption issues recently, but E2EE is not mandatory.
Notifications have had some changes too, but I can't comment much on that or your other issues.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#50Is there like, any UI/UX plan for the main chat view in Element X? I feel like I've been using it for a year now and every time I see an update available I find myself hoping it's fixed the glaring spacing/padding issues in that particular view.
There's a lot of talk of Element competing with mainstream chat applications, but I don't see how it does that with what feels like an incomplete UI. I also just don't quite get how you ship a chat application in 2024 with issues like this, considering chat UI itself is somewhat of a solved problem. It's like one of those things that just has no reason to be badly laid out.
(Is this just SwiftUI being less than ideal for some types of views...?)
To be clear, I like and use Matrix daily. It's definitely still got rough edges but I appreciate the work they're doing and I think it'll eventually "get there", so I don't want to just be a (total) detractor.