I use Element X every day. On the phone it's very buggy and doesn't get push notification for the latest messages sometimes.
We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
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Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#32"We have lifted-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready." "We had a lift-off for/of Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready." Proper language.
Or like the actual title of the blog entry? > We have lift-off! Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready! Just some url/tag parsing/generation gone wrong.
I think it’s the anti-clickbait thing removing the exclamation marks. (Personally, I’d just leave “Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready”)
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like this is a paid product meant for enterprise use.
I have trouble even just veryfing that on their page. So far its an instant turnoff, when I cant even find basic info.
FWIW, pricing here (10 EUR/user/month, min 100 users; self-hosted apparently also supported): https://element.io/pricing
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#34I really hope this fixed a bunch of encryption and key issues. We ran Element for our dev team for 6 months and had to give up because frequently a person would just not be able to decrypt a message, warnings would appear but there was no way to solve this. So literally people where missing messages and just having to ask people to post the message again (because there was no way to request the keys be sent). It was…
I have had similar experiences, but not on professional context. Random E2EE key issues (not often) that maybe sometimes resolve themselves or with some additional action like bringing all clients online. Matrix is still the best choice for me, though, and I expect it to improve like it has over the years.
Last time I tried the threads-feature (with Element) maybe a year ago, it was still in beta.
Anyhow, if you're ok with Slack, then you probably could have just not use E2EE at all and avoid issues related to that?
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#35SwiftUI only/iOS 16.4 requirement excludes a lot of older devices.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#36If element x doesn't have threading on Android yet, and I checked last week, it's not ready compared to the default element app.
My co-op uses matrix as our primary communication method, replacing slack because it was too expensive, and we're very happy with it, but I was always surprised that element x was even on the app store considering how primitive it was compares to Element (the first app).
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#37We tried matrix and element a little while back and it had too many sharp corners. Now we use jabber. It also have some problems but we were able to workaround them.
When we did our tests, messages would get dropped, arrive out of order, be impossible to decrypt, joining a room was slow (sometimes days), mobile notifications would be swallowed by the desktop client left running, webhook were hard...
I don't want to speculate too much as it is just a feeling, but it felt that the protocol itself had unfixable flaws.
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#38We tried matrix and element a little while back and it had too many sharp corners. Now we use jabber. It also have some problems but we were able to workaround them. When we did our tests, messages would get dropped, arrive out of order, be impossible to decrypt, joining a room was slow (sometimes days), mobile notifications would be swallowed by the desktop client left running, webhook were hard... I don't want to s…
Is Jabber still around?
Re: We have lift-off Element X, Call and Server Suite are ready
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like ESS ist their managed solution, which uses Synapse but with an admin UI. Thats at least how I understand it, because to "get" ESS you need to fill out a contact form. https://try.element.io/get-started
Ah, so I can get this free opensource decentralized solution if I pay a company to host it for me on their centralized server, got it. I mean i wouldnt have a problem paying one-time fee of around $100 if that would mean I can get that soft running locally for my groups, but I guess I am not the target potential customer group.
If you want to self-host the actual free open-source software, you can totally do that. You just shouldn't go looking at the product page of the enterprise offering for it (:
It looks like ESS is mostly managed deployment of otherwise opensourced software like Synapse, Element Web, Element Call, and friends. And I guess they have some backoffice with a glossy web UI for account/user management.
https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy is a good starting point!