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At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by JoeyBananas »

bamboozled wrote: post #59
JoeyBananas wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no proof that Lebanese Hezbollah was responsible for the Magdal Shams incident you are referring to, and all of the facts suggest that it was an accident. It happened during what was virtually a firefight. The Magdal Shams is a village in the Golan heights, which is a Syrian area that is illegally occupied by Israel. At the very least, it is a huge leap of faith to assume that the families of the victims con…

Just accidentally blew up a soccer field ?

My friend, I suggest adopting a less juvenile attitude. As I stated previously, there is no proof of where the bomb came from, and the victims may have had allegiance towards the faction that you consider the "bad guys."

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by moron123 »

Hackbraten wrote: post #19
bamboozled wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you prefer they bomb a house, school, or mosque, or some other place where they hangout with civilians to use then as shields? Because when they did that everyone was up in arms, and now they try a more targeted approach and they're "terrorists"...meanwhile Putin is basically trying to make a whole country freeze this year and I hardly anyone complains all calls him a terrorist, apparently, that's fine? Israel…

Unlike rockets and other military weapons, electronic household gadgets that unexpectedly explode in your face nationwide is absolutely a thing that induces terror and fear. As a civilian, I can feel reasonably safe in my home but this supply chain attack upends everything. Contrary to what most consumers believe, there are layers upon layers of resellers and licensed subcontractors of manufacturers. Platforms such a…

I think you demonstrated the exact purpose of the attack.

Mossad doesn't kill fo fun, they kill to prevent others from killing them.

So yes, they can now sleep at night thanks to this attack.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by JoeyBananas »

bamboozled wrote: post #9
ericzawo wrote: post #2

How does this not violate Geneva Convention?

Would you prefer they bomb a house, school, or mosque, or some other place where they hangout with civilians to use then as shields? Because when they did that everyone was up in arms, and now they try a more targeted approach and they're "terrorists"...meanwhile Putin is basically trying to make a whole country freeze this year and I hardly anyone complains all calls him a terrorist, apparently, that's fine? Israel…

Gaza looks like the aftermath of a major WWII battle, and it has been that way for years because of an air/sea/land blockade that prevents efforts to rebuild. Not just the residential buildings are destroyed, but also water/energy infrastructure. Due to the demographics of Gaza, this mostly impacts women and children. So, it is undeniable that Israel bombed infrastructure knowing that it is mostly women and children who will be harmed.

Putin absolutely 100% does not do that kind of bombing in Ukraine. Even contested cities do not look 1/10th as bad ad Gaza. And he has helped cities such as Mariupol rebuild...

I recommend honestly considering the possibility that your opinion on this topic is based on lies. Sorry to break the news to you, but reality is a bitch

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by JoeyBananas »

Hackbraten wrote: post #19
bamboozled wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you prefer they bomb a house, school, or mosque, or some other place where they hangout with civilians to use then as shields? Because when they did that everyone was up in arms, and now they try a more targeted approach and they're "terrorists"...meanwhile Putin is basically trying to make a whole country freeze this year and I hardly anyone complains all calls him a terrorist, apparently, that's fine? Israel…

Unlike rockets and other military weapons, electronic household gadgets that unexpectedly explode in your face nationwide is absolutely a thing that induces terror and fear. As a civilian, I can feel reasonably safe in my home but this supply chain attack upends everything. Contrary to what most consumers believe, there are layers upon layers of resellers and licensed subcontractors of manufacturers. Platforms such a…

I think this is an important point and I agree that this pager bombing fits the definition of terrorism.

Terrorism = Firing a blank cartridge from a gun in a crowded movie theater. Even if it was only a blank cartridge, the entire theater and surrounding businesses need to be rapidly evacuated and cleared by the SWAT team, children are traumatized, it makes the local newspaper, theater has to hire an armed guard and invests in security cameras...

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by JoeyBananas »

giladamar wrote: post #42
desdenova wrote: post #31

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Israel are the terrorists. And linking to their propaganda, you're only showing how much you've been brainwashed by them.

Of course. YOUR news is always propaganda, MY news is always God's honest truth. I'm sure al jazeera and electronic intifada have a cool disinterested view on the matter.

If you ask engineers who work for Tesla to review the Tesla Cyber Truck, they will tell you it's genius and amazing in every way because they don't want to get fired and they are likely also Tesla shareholders.

If you ask engineers who work for Toyota about the Tesla cyber truck, they have the expertise to identify all of the problems with the design and they are not going to get fired for telling you the truth.

Who would you rather listen to? It is the same situation when we are talking about Western journalists vs. Arab journalists.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by mopsi »

JoeyBananas wrote: post #63
bamboozled wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you prefer they bomb a house, school, or mosque, or some other place where they hangout with civilians to use then as shields? Because when they did that everyone was up in arms, and now they try a more targeted approach and they're "terrorists"...meanwhile Putin is basically trying to make a whole country freeze this year and I hardly anyone complains all calls him a terrorist, apparently, that's fine? Israel…

Gaza looks like the aftermath of a major WWII battle, and it has been that way for years because of an air/sea/land blockade that prevents efforts to rebuild. Not just the residential buildings are destroyed, but also water/energy infrastructure. Due to the demographics of Gaza, this mostly impacts women and children. So, it is undeniable that Israel bombed infrastructure knowing that it is mostly women and children…

> Putin absolutely 100% does not do that kind of bombing in Ukraine. Even contested cities do not look 1/10th as bad ad Gaza.

Yes they do, contested Ukrainian cities are literally reduced to rubble, cease to exist: https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1632070651170410496

Ukrainian forces abandon these cities in the East one by one as Russians completely flatten them with artillery and massive glide bombs, leaving no place to shelter. They're just open wastelands by the end of it, as if a nuclear bomb had gone off.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by dunekid »

mopsi wrote: post #66
JoeyBananas wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gaza looks like the aftermath of a major WWII battle, and it has been that way for years because of an air/sea/land blockade that prevents efforts to rebuild. Not just the residential buildings are destroyed, but also water/energy infrastructure. Due to the demographics of Gaza, this mostly impacts women and children. So, it is undeniable that Israel bombed infrastructure knowing that it is mostly women and children…

> Putin absolutely 100% does not do that kind of bombing in Ukraine. Even contested cities do not look 1/10th as bad ad Gaza. Yes they do, contested Ukrainian cities are literally reduced to rubble, cease to exist: https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1632070651170410496 Ukrainian forces abandon these cities in the East one by one as Russians completely flatten them with artillery and massive glide bombs, leaving no place t…

Not really replying to the above comment, but Do we think Putin should have bombed Gaza? Atleast there would have been sanctions against the bombing entity. Their athletes could have been banned, unlike the ITF people who goes to Olympics after committing crimes against humanity in Gaza. The double standards are not just bad, they are literally evil, I must say.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by dunekid »

bamboozled wrote: post #60
toastercat wrote: post #43

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Spot on. Also the 16k number is reported by Hamas and is a propaganda number. The real count is closer to 2. Also, Hamas is responsible -- Israel has killed 0 civilians.

At one point I heard it was 48k, so who knows what the "Gaza Health Ministry" really knows.

Do you think we should send independent investigators, and humanitarian institutions to do an assessment? Sure just wait for the Israeli investigation of their own crimes to finish, and in maybe a couple of decades, a few people can be let in for a couple of hours to verify the brutality.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by dunekid »

bamboozled wrote: post #52
limpbizkitfan wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irgun/Herut/Likud is just as guilty of all of these “charges”… I think you just lack the ability to rest the blame on Israel. They could have dropped cash over Gaza as reparations for the prior 75 years of genocide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_P... Not sure if you're confused, acting in bad faith, or just don't know what genocide is OR Israel is just really bad at doing genocide? Seventy-two percent of respondents said they believed the Hamas decision to launch the cross-border rampage in southern Israel was "correct" given its outcome so far, while 22% said it was "incorrect". The remainder were u…

>1200 innocent civilians is ok

Please cite the sources for this maybe? The ITF personnel won't be counted as Civilians, correct? Even before adding the Hannibal directive death's, by ITF's own people, these figures are not correct.

Re: At least 20 dead as walkie-talkies explode in Lebanon

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Post by mopsi »

dunekid wrote: post #67
mopsi wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Putin absolutely 100% does not do that kind of bombing in Ukraine. Even contested cities do not look 1/10th as bad ad Gaza. Yes they do, contested Ukrainian cities are literally reduced to rubble, cease to exist: https://x.com/nexta_tv/status/1632070651170410496 Ukrainian forces abandon these cities in the East one by one as Russians completely flatten them with artillery and massive glide bombs, leaving no place t…

Not really replying to the above comment, but Do we think Putin should have bombed Gaza? Atleast there would have been sanctions against the bombing entity. Their athletes could have been banned, unlike the ITF people who goes to Olympics after committing crimes against humanity in Gaza. The double standards are not just bad, they are literally evil, I must say.

The current war began with a surprise attack that included airlanding into a music festival, murdering as many as they could and kidnapping people like Shani Louk, a 22-year-old tattoo artist, who were brought into Gaza from the festival, tortured and murdered. She was last recorded on a pickup truck, lifeless, legs visibly broken, as local men spit on her and record that with their phones. A still from the video: https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/AA1i...

I don't think scenes like these did any favors to the people of Gaza when it comes to international sympathy. Such behavior doesn't leave many options either. I have little doubt most countries would've responded the same way as Israel did.

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