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Post by talldatethrow »

saagarjha wrote: post #225
talldatethrow wrote: post #209

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At a gas station you can just drive away. In an EV, you can't without getting out where the criminal is.

How are you putting gas in your car my guy

Dude idk how this is so difficult. At a gas station, in a well lit place near a road, with a worker inside, where you are only for 4 minutes... If someone heads in your direction that you don't like, you can be in your car in 2-3 seconds.. and drive away. Even if you left the pump in your car.

OR, you can be in an EV for 20 minutes... In a corner of a parking lot... And if someone comes up to your window... You can basically sit there and hope he doesn't have a free piece of ceramic to break your window and hold a knife to you until you give him whatever he wants.

I promise you, as soon as that class of criminal realizes EVs CAN NOT MOVE while plugged in, it's going to get weird.

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Post by Grubbo »

abenga wrote: post #234
Grubbo wrote: post #228

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https://www.chalmers.se/en/current/news/big-breakthrough-for...

So just structural batteries. Like, batteries, but form part of the item they are powering?

Yes like the case around a laptop, or the body/fuselage and wings of a drone, saves weight. They showed it on the news recently.

"Structural batteries are materials that not only store energy, but can also carry loads. In this way, the battery material can become part of the actual construction material of a product, which means that a much lower weight can be achieved in electric cars, drones, hand tools, laptops and mobile phones, for example."

They claim to increase the range of an electric car up to 70%

More recent article: https://www.electrive.com/2024/09/12/swedish-researchers-rep...

Re: GM electric vehicles can now access Tesla Superchargers

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Post by saagarjha »

talldatethrow wrote: post #241
saagarjha wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you putting gas in your car my guy

Dude idk how this is so difficult. At a gas station, in a well lit place near a road, with a worker inside, where you are only for 4 minutes... If someone heads in your direction that you don't like, you can be in your car in 2-3 seconds.. and drive away. Even if you left the pump in your car. OR, you can be in an EV for 20 minutes... In a corner of a parking lot... And if someone comes up to your window... You can b…

Is your entire argument that electric vehicles will typically not start when plugged in, while some gas cars are not advanced enough that they let you literally wrench the gas pump off if you drive away with it connected, an action that can cause serious if not catastrophic damage to your vehicle and the station equipment? Do you really think that the two seconds it takes to unplug a car is going to cause a spate of opportunistic crime? Like, to the point where people will not buy an EV because they are concerned they are going to be mugged? Because this seems like an insane position to me.

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Post by rconti »

modeless wrote: post #109
fuzzythinker wrote: post #79

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It's actually cheaper at supercharger, $.26 after midnight, but ~$.50 during off peak at home after all extra fees in SJ, even after selecting EV charging plan.

$.50/kWh? That's crazy. It's $0.22 in Palo Alto ($0.19 for the first 450 kWh/month). I didn't realize it was such a good deal compared to PG&E.

Do you have Silicon Valley Power in PA? I had it in Santa Clara a decade and a half ago, I swear it was like 8 cents at the time.

10 years ago, PG&E was 18 cents here. Now, 38+.

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Post by rconti »

theluketaylor wrote: post #71
rconti wrote: post #66

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Damn, ouch. Seems crazy that they're now in the position of breaking supercharger compatibility with existing cars.

No compatibility break as far as I know. I believe V3 superchargers speak CCS to 2019 and newer cars and fallback to the older Tesla-proprietary communication if necessary.

ah, gotcha. Yeah, I can live with broken compatibility with just the newer non-Tesla chargers, especially if the upgrade is as cheap as folks here are saying.

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Post by xattt »

HeyLaughingBoy wrote: post #198
xattt wrote: post #173

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Back in the 2000s, VW released the Sirroco. I was graduating from uni, and it looked like the perfect car for me. I would have moved heaven and earth to own one. Alas, VW hemmed and hawed on homologation for North America and ultimately, it did not happen. I do wish we had EU-level options here.

? You mean the Scirocco that's been around since the 70's? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Scirocco

Apologies for the typo. I should have rephrased it as “re-released”.

Third-gen didn’t make it to North America because it would have eaten away at the Golf/Rabbit market share.

Re: GM electric vehicles can now access Tesla Superchargers

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Post by talldatethrow »

saagarjha wrote: post #243
talldatethrow wrote: post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude idk how this is so difficult. At a gas station, in a well lit place near a road, with a worker inside, where you are only for 4 minutes... If someone heads in your direction that you don't like, you can be in your car in 2-3 seconds.. and drive away. Even if you left the pump in your car. OR, you can be in an EV for 20 minutes... In a corner of a parking lot... And if someone comes up to your window... You can b…

Is your entire argument that electric vehicles will typically not start when plugged in, while some gas cars are not advanced enough that they let you literally wrench the gas pump off if you drive away with it connected, an action that can cause serious if not catastrophic damage to your vehicle and the station equipment? Do you really think that the two seconds it takes to unplug a car is going to cause a spate of…

I am at a loss for words.

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Post by linotype »

_ea1k wrote: post #104
linotype wrote: post #78

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Almost no Teslas were manufactured pre-2019 vs post-2019.

I think between 15 and 20% were build pre-2019. The number of non-CCS is actually on the higher end of this, as component shortages caused quite a few to be built without CCS support in 2020.

OK, so less than 20%. In five years it’ll probably be closer to <5-10%.

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Post by LargeWu »

kelnos wrote: post #67
LargeWu wrote: post #26

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As a non-Tesla EV owner, I would happily pay surcharges for charging on Tesla's network if it meant I could reliably use my vehicle on extended trips out of town. Tesla charging network has a very good reputation for reliability, which is a primary concern if I'm traveling on the highway. It's not something I do often, so paying a premium once in a while to use my EV instead of my ICE vehicle seems like a decent trad…

Ugh, please don't take this stance. Gas stations don't charge different amounts for gas depending on the type of car, and EV charging stations shouldn't be permitted to do so either. I don't have an EV, but I agree that Tesla has a much much better reputation for reliable, working charging stations in the US. If people will actually pay more for that experience, then sure, Tesla can charge more than a competing charg…

It's not at all about how much is being charged.

The difference with gas stations, and it can't be underestimated, is that I can typically stop at a minimum every 30 miles and refuel at a gas pump. It's almost guaranteed. Sure, driving through sparsely populated areas on a remote highway might be different, but every interstate highway is going to have reliable fueling infrastructure for ICE's. I don't have to worry if the pump is broken, I don't have to worry about waiting 45 minutes for a pump, and I certainly don't have to worry about if there will be a pump at all.

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